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PostPosted: 01:49 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Liquid fuel (petrol) stoves Reply with quote

For a three week mainly camping bike trip, it's struck me that cooking on gas may not be the best solution as I'd have to lug round canisters, or search for them every few days. Therefore been looking at liquid stoves able to burn unleaded petrol.

Now I've got a dilemma, I don't know whether to for go for this type of stove:-
https://im.edirectory.co.uk/products/256/i/531101.jpg

Or this type:-
https://www.fieldandtrek.com/images/products/18028_m.jpg

The first one is relatively cheap (£30-£45 depending on model), however looks quite large to pack away and doesn't look like it comes apart easily either. Tall stoves in my experience can also have stability issues.

Second type costs more, best part of £80 including the fuel bottle. Is light and will separate and pack easily.


In an ideal situation I'd go for the second one, but on a serious budget, is it really worth the extra? Opinions especially from people who've used these types of stoves before would be much appreciated Smile
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean used to have the top one, worked pretty well from what I saw at BdB etc.
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both work very well.

I've had a coleman duel fuel stove (like the top one) for 11 years and it is still going strong. Can't fault it.

Here is a picture of it in action this summer.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a camping trip, in campsites, at low altitude in good/fair weather, then a regular coleman or gas stove will do fine, and you don't even need to spend as much as £30 on one.

Things like the MSR Whisperlite (shown) or MSR Dragonfly (as I have) are only really useful where you're in relatively inhospitbale environments, and/or are limited in the fuels available (they come with multiple jets so they can run on anything from stove fuel, unleaded, diesel and even vegetable oil at a push)

unless you NEED an expidition level stove, I'd just get a regular gas one.

btw, the Whisperlite only has a flow control on the bottle valve, which makes it very hard to control the flame heat. Simmering is near impossible, so you end up with Boil or off. the dragonfly has an additional valve on the stove body, which makes cooking easier to control, however, it's very loud,and sounds like a yet engine. the dragonfly wil also cost over £100 including the bottle in most places, and you MUST use an MSR fuel bottle. SIGG bottles will fit, but the threads are a different depth, so when pressurised, they can pop off the end of the fuel pipe, blowing pressurised fuel everywhere. not good:D

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PostPosted: 10:07 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=32795

I use my MSR whisperlite for most camping trips.

Super fast when boiling but as mentioned it's HARD to simmer. It's not on OR off, just there's delay between adjustments and the flame reducing. Takes a while to get used to, but perfect for fryups.

If size is your concern you can use one of the 325ml bottles and fill it up with petrol from your bike tank. Std bottles are 590ml and also come in 1000ml (i think).

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=37082

Fuel wise i use coleman white fuel as it's very clean burning. Petrol isn't as clean and does leave soot everywhere.

Good stove but not sure if it's worth £80.

I wouldn't go back to trangia type stoves, but i'm looking at the gas canister MSR stoves as the whisperlite stove is a little over the top for most things. As said, good stove, but its' top of the line stuff.
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EuropeanNC30R...
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response. Feef I have already got a gas stove, but with luggage space at an absolute premium I want to avoid having to carry unecessary fuel if I have a tank full sitting there in the bike.

Sounds like the conventional-style Coleman one is the best tool for the job, cheers guys.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made an ultra-minimalist stove this weekend when I was bored. Runs on meths/alcohol and is made from the base of two drink cans and some epoxy.

I am impressed at how well it works, nowhere near as good as my coleman stove but I boiled my teapot (see above picture) of water in 15 minutes.

To find out how to make one, just google for 'pepsi can stove'.
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