RGV250 vs NC30 which one?

[Itchy]

RGV250 vs NC30 ,

which one? ,I was going down to see an old ex courier Deauville sickpup told me was severely underpriced , on closer inspection the
engine casing was salted to hell , and the body work was full of
holes and the touring paniers made it so wide filtering would
just not happen and that it had been down more times than a dollar hooker, judging by the cracks in various places (FSH though with valves done every year and oil changed every 2.5k shaft AND engine)

The old NTV stays as my commuting machine then (going to go to Berties to get some parts later).

turning away I spot under a sheet an RGV250 for £1002 (yup £1002) 11K on the clocks worn tyres such you can see the bloody steel1993 (I think), and thought mmm.....was last used in 2004.

Now it just so happened that I found a nice NC30 for £1100
left under a sheet since 1990 with 8K on the clocks, last used
in 1994.


so its:

NC30

4t 60BHP 160kilo

VS

RGV250

2t 130kilo 65bhp


Based on

corner attack ability

maintainance difficulty

0wnage, ie I have some outstanding business with a fast fast rider on an NC30, (the NTV does hold its own but is severely outclassed).
you know who you are...

There is NO need to commute on it or carry things with it (unless my day bike breaks down), and it will be only used for weekend playing.

any suggestions?

Thanks

EDIT

the NC30 is being sold by a non biker who inherited it off her brother, the RGV250 is being sold by a dealer on the basis of we stick it in our shop we take 10% cut of the sale price.
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If it's not been used for 12 years the NC30 is going to need a fair few ££ throwing at it. Tyres, fluids, bearings, brake pistons/seals. Your could spend £400 straight away. Whereas £1200 would get you a good runner from the off! Low millage yes, but if it's not been looked after it doesn't count for a lot.

I've not ridden a RGV so can't compare, but I do love my NC30 to bits.

[Itchy]

I know I can't find any NC30s that have been not kept under a sheet for years and years, the only newer ones I can find have Maurice type milage on them (60K+) which for a 400 is alot , not much for a courier bike but lots for a 400.

Since I work full time and have a weekend bit on the side job I'm not willing to travel more than 100 miles each way.
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Keep trying. The market is saturated with NC30's with a least one going on ebay every day.

I spent a couple of weeks trying and picked up a 20K example for £1200 which was in my local town. Anything around 40k is perfectly fine if serviced regularly and it shows it's been used on a regular basis.

There are endless spares on ebay too which is another good reason for the VFR.

[MarJay]

I'd personally go for the NC30 unless you really have a thaing for two strokes.

The thing is, once the NC30 has had a little work done to it to sort the "Hasn't run for a long while" Issues it will be ride and forget.

The RGV needs constant attention, expensive two stroke oil and probably doesn't actually make 65bhp. A very good one freshly rebuilt makes around 55bhp.

They are very very good bikes, but they need a LOT of looking after. Mine was rebuilt about 4000 miles ago and has just gone pop again. For me, I have an irrational love of small two strokes, and I'm a small person so I picked the RGV for its light weight and 1990's GP bike coolness. The advantage I have is that if it goes pop (which it has) I can use the Buell to go out and have fun. Goose also recently bought an RGV and that too went pop after only a few miles. It is currently sitting in G's garage awaiting a rebuild.

I would strongly reccomend the NC30 unless you have experience (and enjoy) engine rebuilds.

Personally I'd say that a few years under a sheet won't do the NC30 any permanent harm. Fresh fluids and tyres should have it sorted. Perhaps a carb clean too...

The RGV might have just been rebuilt, or may be in dire need of an expensive full engine rebuild. You just don't know. NC30's tend to be a known quantity.

Personally I'd probably go with the NC30, change the oil, coolant, brake fluid and fork oil. Check the battery holds its charge and check the tyres are still OK.

Then ride the wheels off of it!

The RGV would need the same (apart from engine oil.. but it would probably need gearbox oil) plus the potential to need a top end or even a full engine rebuild. For example if the crank seals have gone, then its £££££

If you can't afford to spend much more than a grand on a bike then I doubt you can afford to rebuild it a lot either!!
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[G]

The RGV will be a more 'fun' bike, and easier to work on. What mileage?
The RGV should be better around the corners and will need more work to make it go fast - which I find means more rewarding riding when you get it right.

However the NC30 sounds like a better deal.


As Marjay says, the RGV won't have 65hp, I'd expect about 5 less than the VFR.
Goose's bike went 'pop' because of a rusty fuel tank. Same coulda happened in a 4 stroke I expect, and probably cost a lot, lot more to rebuild.

[MarJay]

Its done just over 11k according to the post above. That is around the time when it needs a full strip and rebuild. I suspect it hasn't been done...

I'd go with the NC30.
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