2 stroke 2 much effort?

Jebus1 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 17 May 2006 Karma :

This might have been asked before, but can't find anything. Are 2-strokes just too much hassle?
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Davo · Davo To The Rescue! Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Karma :

Vin · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Karma :

Nope.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

That very much depends on which 2-stroke, who owns it and what they are using it for.

KyleH · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

2 strokes are good for racing and young riders as they force you to use gears properly and have harsh engine breaking you just need a mechanic to constantly rebuild it for you

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Jebus · Brolly Dolly Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Karma :

no, ok so you have to fill up the 2 stroke and should warm it up before you really ride it but they are far more fun as a 125, they dont go as long as a 4 stroke before a rebuild is needed.

But if you think that those simple things are a bit of a pain maybe biking isnt for you, a lot of annoying and stuff goes into it. kit getting into it were to keep it at work chain lubing, avoiding nutters on the road. the list goes on

anyway i am the original JEBUS you stole my name
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Vin · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Karma :

Did you mean don't have harsh engine braking?
The good thing about two strokes is that they are simple. They may need fairly regular top end rebuilds but they aren't that hard to do yourself. Also the perceived lack of reliabilty is part caused by two strokes often being tuned to the bollocks small race reps owned by people who don't look after them.
Old Suzuki GT500's were meant to be quite reliable

Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

Vin · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Karma :

2 strokes need no more, (in my opinion less) warming up than a four stroke. I could go on about the lubrication systems of each but I can't be bothered.

Jebus1 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 17 May 2006 Karma :

I in no way meant to steal your name.... Sad

Biking is right for me! I love it! Very Happy

I love the thought of working on a bike. Its just my mum said she had a 2 stroke and that it was loads of hassle...but that was about 20 years ago..I was just wondering...
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

Just look after it, service it and occasionally shove your willy up the exhaust. That'll keep it running sweetly. Very Happy

Jack
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Vin · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Karma :

Off topic but a message to stinkwheel.
Do you know whether GT185's directly lube the bearings?

stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

i don't think so at all! Like it's been said it really depends on what your using the bike for, and if it's suitable for the intended use?

I nearly brought a Skoal Bandit Suzuki RG500 as a winter bike a few years ago, mainly because it had a full MOT, and plenty of Tax left, and it was at a keen price for an RG500, and for sale locally too! I still wish id have brought it sometimes now!

If you took away my ZX6R and my KMX200 and said that i must have one bike to replace both, and be my only machine, then id be asking for a nice clean Yamaha RD500LC, and id be happy with that!

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

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Jebus · Brolly Dolly Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Karma :

dont worry only joking about the nicked name, modern 2 strokes are pretty reliable unless they riden by a ned and its from itay
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Jebus1 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 17 May 2006 Karma :

i was looking at an 2001 NSR...was just wondering bout 2 strokes...thanks all
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Gradog · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Karma :

ram_doom · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Karma :

Their great fun, and rewarding to thrash Thumbs Up

they'll teach you all about pistons, oil and maintenance in general Wink

downside is that any clothes you wear whilst riding it will stink of 2 stroke oil forever.
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Motkram · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Karma :

There were two guys at Mallory the other day, one on an rd and the other on an MZ.
By mid-afternoon one had broken the crank and the other mashed the gearbox. Shocked

An untuned non-race rep type of two smoke bike is normally really reliable, unless you are a total animal.
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kronjp · L Plate Warrior Joined: 21 May 2006 Karma :

This topic interests me as I've been weighing up between a semi-sporty 250cc two stroke or 4 stroke. Due to registration issues in Japan, 250cc don't require a special inspection called Shaken (like MOT) but over that they do and it's damn expensive. Hence why so many good 400s end up in the UK.

My question is, what kind of fuel economy can you get from a 2 stroke say an Yamaha RZ-1 as opposed to a Yamaha fzr 250? I know fun factor will play a big part, but it'll be an everyday commuter so it needs to be pretty reliable and economical too.

cheers