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hazza
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: am i dreaming? Reply with quote

my dad has two bikes, the first being an old bsa and the second being a suzuki intruder 800. he wants to get rid of the 800 because he never uses it (N reg and its done just under 8000 miles) and its a really nice bike. im still on L plates but i was thinking, how crazy would it be for me to sell my current bike and my old moped to fund my test, then convince my dad to give me his bike for free?....it seemed a good idea but then i thought hang on, 800 cc at 17?....the question is will this thing kill me on insurance, i would have thought it would have been lower than the poncy sports bikes ( no offence i just dont like them).


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feel free to call me a total arseclown if im being a silly sod
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would have to be restricted so the insurance would be a little less surely?

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PostPosted: 19:10 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I got a quote on an 850cc bike at 17 for £416, just to prove that cc doesn't matter as much as most other factors.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

well he hasnt agreed im having it for free yet lol...im dropping hints left right and centre and he knows what im getting at, its just sitting in the garage doing nothing anyway so i dont see a problem, id maybe buy him a few pints lol...fair swap
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hazza wrote:
its just sitting in the garage doing nothing anyway so i dont see a problem, id maybe buy him a few pints lol...fair swap


a few pints ?

you mean a few barrels, and offer to clean his other bike for the rest of the year Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

find the insurance group, the divvy is a 600 and i will pay under 400 with 2yrsncb- its group 8, the z750 is group 12 and will cost me double that, and its only 150cc difference.
A cruiser could be suprisingly low
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell how you'll clean it every day, feed it, water it and play with it after school Doh! sorry thats if you want a dog Laughing

Just say please, please, please........until it drives him so mad that he says have both the bikes Wink
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hazza
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

he wont let me near his bsa let alone clean it for him, its his pride and joy and slow as hell, the brakes are crap and the lights are awful, but theres something about it that new bikes just dont have and i get why he loves it so much.

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you mean a few barrels, and offer to clean his other bike for the rest of the year

suppose i could use the excuse that im still 17 for a few months and that sort of thing would be illegal so id better have it for free or he will be setting a bad example to me Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hazza wrote:
he wont let me near his bsa let alone clean it for him, its his pride and joy and slow as hell, the brakes are crap and the lights are awful, but theres something about it that new bikes just dont have and i get why he loves it so much.

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you mean a few barrels, and offer to clean his other bike for the rest of the year

suppose i could use the excuse that im still 17 for a few months and that sort of thing would be illegal so id better have it for free or he will be setting a bad example to me Laughing



LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask how much he would sell it for!

When I was your age, I worked weekends at £60 a week to buy my first bike...
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 800 'intruder' has less power than a sports 400, a lot more weight and a lot less 'handling' ability - so unlikely you'll be going fast, just don't try and keep up with other, faster, bikes Smile.

Basically, only silly because it's a rather sillely slow bike Smile.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arseclown..



































Only joking Razz , keep dropping those hints!
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hazza
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 800 'intruder' has less power than a sports 400, a lot more weight and a lot less 'handling' ability - so unlikely you'll be going fast, just don't try and keep up with other, faster, bikes .

Basically, only silly because it's a rather sillely slow bike .



anybody else think G dosent like cruisers or is it just me? Laughing

i know its not going to be fast, but i have riden it and i love the way it has low down power and i never have to change gear. i wouldnt fancy doing 100plus mph sitting up anway lol, thinking about it i wouldnt fancy doing the ton lying down either
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dislike of cruisers is well documented! Smile - And there was a point to my rantings, that at 17 it should be relatively less of a bad idea than your average 17 year old getting a sports 400, providing you're sensible, of course.

Incidentally, from my limited experience of curisers, you need a fair bit less gearbox work from a similar size sportsy bike to keep the same speed.
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hazza
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know all bikescan and will be stolen, but i do find some comfort that my dads bike (hopefully mine) weighs 200lbs and i should imagine is near imposible to lift into the back of a transit van
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hazza wrote:
i do find some comfort that my dads bike (hopefully mine) weighs 200lbs and i should imagine is near imposible to lift into the back of a transit van


This means nothing. If they want it, they will get it. Several blokes will have no trouble at all, especially when they will probably know the best places to lift it, adrenaline, etc.
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hazza
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

just out of interst are sports bikes attractive to criminals? because i thought they would be but my mates dad said not, apparently the trail bike is their preference
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tail bikes for the chavs and pikey's, sports bikes for hardcore or pro scum.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Casual thieves' will tend to go for 50/125 and trail bikes - ones they can easily rag around a field.
I expect your average pikey/chav type has some idea that a 180mph sports bike will probably kill them.

More profesional thieves will go for what ever is wanted.

Afraid 200kg would be very easily done with four blokes - probably two if they were happy to take a bit longer.
The ramp managed to jumpy away earlier*, ok my SV isn't the heaviest of bikes, but I was ok lifting the back end up and in while myself. Have put a 125 into a highish van on my own in the past without a ramp.

*Don't ride up a ramp sitting on a bike, then stop halfway and try and go again, a bad idea.
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hazza
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i dont know if anybody will know this but say worst came to the worst and i had to put my hand into my pocket for the bike how much is it worth (bear in mind he WILL knock money off for family), its an n reg, good condition not showroom but great for a biek of its age, 8000 miles on the clock and in metalic black
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
It would have to be restricted so the insurance would be a little less surely?
It will have to be restricted because at 17 he cant do DAS, unofrtuantely (as stupid as this may seem) insurance companies offer no discount to restricted bikes.

800 intruders can make quite decent money, Ive seen them make as much as £1400-1500 and as little as £800 for similar age bikes.
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hazza
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked 1500 quid


i have about 50 quid in my account



hes still saying no at the minute but hes cracking, i suppose it would be a cheap 18th bday present for him though, seen as he already has it
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

£1500 is pretty expensive for an 18th birthday in my books... since giving it away will effectively lose him that money!
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob84 wrote:
£1500 is pretty expensive for an 18th birthday in my books... since giving it away will effectively lose him that money!


not if ur spoilt Mr. Green
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hazza
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

pfft spoilt?

my dads as tight as a ducks arse so if he already has the bike then he hasnt got to spend anymore money on my bday present.

for example when i was a kid there was this little motorbike going for 100 quid, it wasnt much, but i set my heart on it, so he haggled but the bloke wasnt going any lower, later that day he said ''i would have brought it you if he had gone down to 90 quid''
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