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PostPosted: 15:42 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: 999R Reply with quote

Right i am bored at work and want some information on this bike since hopefully i should be getting one next year.

I know its ohlins all round and brembo brakes and a more powerfull engine.

How much should i be looking at paying for a good 2nd one? and i hope they come with a after market exhuast as standard.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

I know I'm not answering your question, but have you worked out why you want a 999R?

If you've got the money to waste spend for aesthetic reasons, fair enough.
If someone's giving you one on the condition you don't sell it, fair enough.
If you're racing at national level or higher, again fair enough.

Otherwise, you could get a lower model and spend some of the money saved on a few twaeks and have a lot better bike, I reckon.


Definitely don't expect it to make you go much faster, road or track.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon fibre everything as standard
Temi system as standard
Full ohlins
Radial Brembo calipers
Slipper clutch
Shorter stroke and more powerful engine
Different wheels i believe( marchesini)
as well as various other parts like a different yoke.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G, are you an accountant or do you always try to bring people down a step on what they fancy when it involves spending some cash? I can tell your only expressing your honest view, in some cases I agree with you for the fact that Elliot might not be aware he could get more bike for less, but it bugs me for the fact that in every post I read, you seem to be the same. It kinda bugs me to think that you'd never feel what I think quite a few of us feel when we want to spend our money on something we can be proud of?

Sorry to be off topic a bit here Elliot, but details as follows (general stats):

General information
Model: Ducati 999 R Superbike
Year: 2006
Category: Sport
Rating: 72.1 out of 100. Show full rating and compare with other bikes

Engine and transmission
Displacement: 999.00 ccm (60.96 cubic inches)
Engine type: V2
Stroke: 4
Power: 147.51 HP (107.7 kW)) @ 9750 RPM
Torque: 11.90 Nm (1.2 kgf-m or 8.8 ft.lbs) @ 8000 RPM
Compression: 12.5:1
Bore x stroke: 104.0 x 58.8 mm (4.1 x 2.3 inches)
Fuel system: Injection. Marelli electronic fuel injection, 54 mm throttle body
Valves per cylinder: 4
Fuel control: Desmodromic valve control
Starter: Electric
Cooling system: Liquid
Gearbox: 6-speed
Transmission type
final drive: Chain
Clutch: Dry multiplate with hydraulic control

Physical measures
Wheelbase: 1,420 mm (55.9 inches)

Chassis and dimensions
Frame type: Tubular steel trellis
Front suspension: Öhlins 43 mm upside-down fully adjustable fork with TiN surface treatment, for radial calipers
Front suspension travel: 120 mm (4.7 inches)
Rear suspension: Progressive linkage with fully adjustable Öhlins monoshock
Rear suspension travel: 128 mm (5.0 inches)
Front tyre dimensions: 120/70-ZR17
Rear tyre dimensions: 190/50-ZR17
Front brakes: Double disc
Front brakes diameter: 320 mm (12.6 inches)
Rear brakes: Single disc
Rear brakes diameter: 240 mm (9.4 inches)
Exhaust system: Single steel muffler with catalytic converter

Other specifications
Fuel capacity: 15.50 litres (4.10 gallons)
Color options: Red-red-black

As taken from https://bikez.com/motorcycles/ducati_999_r_superbike_2006.php

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PostPosted: 16:38 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take Bikez stats with a pinch of salt, they are usually slightly wrong.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m i k e wrote:
G, are you an accountant or do you always try to bring people down a step on what they fancy when it involves spending some cash? I can tell your only expressing your honest view, in some cases I agree with you for the fact that Elliot might not be aware he could get more bike for less, but it bugs me for the fact that in every post I read, you seem to be the same. It kinda bugs me to think that you'd never feel what I think quite a few of us feel when we want to spend our money on something we can be proud of?

Believe it or not, I genuinely feel that people would have more fun riding a cheaper bike, than tarting about on an expensive bike which they are worried to crash.

Especially something like this where you could get a much better biking experience for a lot less money.

If it was just me, then ok, it's well known that I prefer riding to tarting, but there's plenty of other people I've known to buy an expensive bike, for what it often seems to be an excuse to show they've got lots of money.

Then a while later they get hold of a much cheaper bike and find they have a lot more fun on it because they can enjoy riding it, rather than trying to lose as little value as possible from their shiny bike.


I believe I did cover that it was fair enough if he wanted to spend it for aesthetic reasons - just wanting to make sure that he's aware that that is the reason for spending that much money as he's unlikely to be getting value as far as useable performance goes.
(Ok, I did put a little quib in struck through text, but I presume people would take that as a joke.)
A lot of people do seem to buy a shiny bike that offers them little more than other bikes for the sake of the name, reg plate, etc, but in the belief it will actually be a better bike - if I was doing this and genuinely believed I was getting something better when I was not, I would want to be told I could save a load of money.

I don't feel particularly bad about doing it as there's usually plenty of people with the counter argument of "oh my god, you're really cool because you've got / can get shiny bike 'x'".
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I could afford to buy a 999R, run it, insure it and crash it then I'd get one Thumbs Up

I think they're lovely - if I one the lottery they'd be one in my stable of bikes.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Believe it or not, I genuinely feel that people would have more fun riding a cheaper bike, than tarting about on an expensive bike which they are worried to crash.


i totally disagree, you can have fun riding a shite bike, but for some people its not all about riding, its the looks its the feel its the sound.

Find a bike that looks brilliant, brilliant to ride, sounds brilliant and why spend money on it.

ive never changed my riding style since ive had my cbr400 and ive ridden expensive bikes, and believe me i would take a K6 gixxer750 over a cbr400 any day of the week even if it does cost £6000 more.[/quote]
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
i totally disagree,

Ok, that should have really read 'some people'.

You'll note, that I did specifically point out that I appreciated that some people are happy to pay for aesthetics.
I didn't criticise that (much), I just said I wanted people to be sure they are happy doing this.

Haven't heard about you ending up in any hedges on the Duke yet Wink.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Haven't heard about you ending up in any hedges on the Duke yet Wink.


You're not as bright as i gave you credit for Rolling Eyes I can't believe you think he actually rides it... Laughing

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PostPosted: 18:55 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is exactly why I bought a second hand Buell and not a brand new Daytona 675...

I have lots of fun on the Buell. I know I can drop it and it will be OK (it has very good crash mushrooms, already tested by Danny Wink ).

Its not the fastest thing out there but it suits me.

I also have a cheap track bike which I take to trackdays. I'm a lot faster on that (a 2t 250) than I ever have been on my bigger bikes, purely because if I crash it, its not the end of the world.

the 999R and the D675 have one thing in common. They both have very pretty but very fragile fairing panels.

That puts me off a bit, considering I've dropped every bike I've owned (except, ironically, my 1986 TZR250).
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Cheese wrote:
G wrote:
Haven't heard about you ending up in any hedges on the Duke yet Wink.


You're not as bright as i gave you credit for Rolling Eyes I can't believe you think he actually rides it... Laughing

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id put a hundred quid on saying i do more milage than you on my ducati.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

G wrote:
I know I'm not answering your question, but have you worked out why you want a 999R?

If you've got the money to waste spend for aesthetic reasons, fair enough.
Otherwise, you could get a lower model and spend some of the money saved on a few twaeks and have a lot better bike, I reckon.
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Well owning a Ducati is like going down the street in a big red Ferrari, everyone looks and they are stunning bikes.

Why would i buy a lower model then spend money on it? insted just buy the best there is then i got nothing to spend in modding it.

I have been looking in MCN at the prices and can pick up a 999R for around £9k, not bad for what you are getting.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:


Why would i buy a lower model then spend money on it? insted just buy the best there is then i got nothing to spend in modding it.

Didn't realise they were that cheap, but I stick to my early comments regardless.
However as stock I still very much doubt they will be any where near 'the best there is' for what you are using it for.

I would expect getting a cheaper bike and spending some of the money on getting suspension suited for your purposes and set up for you would give you a better bike for whatever you are doing, road or track.

Not everyone looks at a Ferrari, and some think 'tosser', however talking to Ferrari owners, they generally /do/ think everyone thinks them a god for owning one.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

I just couldn't waste 9k on one, I think it's a bit of poo for that money.The bike is one ugly bitch, the 916 is how they should look.
Rolling Eyes

For that money I could get an early zx10r and a half decent car, and insure both.

Fair enough if you're rich, why not! Not for me though, ever Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 22:23 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:
i hope they come with a after market exhuast as standard.


That's a slight contradiction right there.
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PostPosted: 05:56 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everyone looks as if its a ferrari, everyone looks as its a sports bike, it is no different from riding down the street on a K6 gixxer.
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: 999R Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:
I have been looking in MCN at the prices and can pick up a 999R for around £9k, not bad for what you are getting.


£9000!!!????

Look at my Sig..

That lot cost less than £9000 in total, and that includes the mods!

I'd rather have my fleet than a single 999r

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PostPosted: 10:10 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not wait for the new 1200 they're bringing out? they are finally ditching the ridiculously ugly looks of the new bikes in favour of a more 916 stylke at last Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 999R does come with an open pipe as standard, and if you have the money, why not get one.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
The 999R does come with an open pipe as standard, and if you have the money, why not get one.

If you have the money you don't mind 'losing' and don't think you'd spend on anything else then 'go for it', I'd say.
But, still, don't presume that everyone will think you're god just because you have one and don't get annoyed when people suggest you're not Smile.

However for the majority of people, as they would be worried about losing a few thousand pounds, may well find they ride the bike a fair bit slower and generally get less enjoyment because they are worried about losing that money.

I'm reminded of the bloke at a roundabout near Boxhill, who proudly told us how his 996 had a 998R engine in.
However he was getting rather frustrated while riding it as he couldn't get his knee down. He got further frustrated when I went round the roundabout faster than him, with my knee down, on Danny's completely knackered GPZ550 with dodgy tyres.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reevo8 wrote:
Not everyone looks as if its a ferrari, everyone looks as its a sports bike, it is no different from riding down the street on a K6 gixxer.


Well its the ferrari of bikes if you get what i mean, very rare bike compared to a GSXR etc and would turn heads just from the sound it makes.

These types of bikes dont really lose money and i could still sell on for a good price.

@feef, if i wanted numbers insted of one decent one, i would buy a fleet of 50's.

I dont need people to tell me how to spend my money, its my money and i will spend it on what i like, i dont waste it on beer or fags so its good to have something nice to show for it.

I just wanted some more information on it, not how to "waste" my money, Also in MCN there is those MV's going for £5000-6000, cheap as anything!
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of agree with G, personally I dont go WOW A DUCATI. I think they are mostly ridden by people with lots of money and no imagination, just like ferraris. You have £9000 to spend do you A). buy something cheaper, and spend the rest of the money making a unique bike more suited to exactly what you want. Or B). buy a ducati because they are the "best bikes" since you cant imagine something better, id be much more interested in looking at a special that had someones time effort and thought put into it than a bike that someone just bought because they were rich.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a 999R that frequents Bury Hill. No one seems to pay too much attention to it. Despite the carbon fibre bodywork (only shown through the bike's flanks and beneath its "decals"), Ohlins, Termis, etc - everyone seems to pass it as if any other 999.

If G's right and the bike doesn't give any real-road benefits from a rider's point of view, is there really a need?

If we had a Top Gear-esc Cool Wall, I reckon the bike would be pretty near the uncool section - it seems to need far too many Ducati-geeks explaining to everyone why their bike is cooler than everyone elses.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 27 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a bran new 2006 one in southhall yesterday the guy riding it was wearing a pin strip suit and loafers Laughing
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