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nick 15
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Is it true that... Reply with quote

......If you drop your helmet onto concrete from when your standing...



you need a new lid?

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PostPosted: 12:18 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its from the top of the Empire State Building then yes.

I dropped the Caberg once, it slipped from the seat on the floor. I broke a flimsy plastic air filter on the top and thats it. I am not spending another £100 on a new lid just because of that.

The safety nazis say yes to a new lid after each drop, but theres a drop and theres a drop.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

how highly do you value your head?
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMFAO great question!!!!!!

Alot

Although

I don't think i would buy another one after just one drop,

Would anyone else??
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Unless you were wearing it at the time, in which case decapitaion would render the need for a helmet somewhat redundant.

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PostPosted: 12:29 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

from a safety point of view, Yes

scientific reason is when you drop your lid the softer layer of impact foam compresses increasing its density. so when you are involved in a genuine accident the foam is already compressed thus removing less impact energy than if it was still in its origional state. so theoretically speaking your lid should be reaplaced every time it kisses the floor, however it is unfeasable.

also, aparently plastic helmets (detectable by the seam around the helmet) has a life of two years and fiberglass helmets last four years. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

korn booted a football at my lid when it was brand new, i was not a happy bunnie.
I think you cant see any visable damage it should be fine.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a new one when I dropped mine (I was holding it and it slipped out my hand and fell onto the pavement). The trouble is, even if you can't see any damage, the shell has now been weakened. I personally wouldn't take the risk.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol

Brand new!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Lol

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PostPosted: 12:50 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get something which sticks onto your helmet which lights up if your helmet gets a knock bad enough to mean you need to replace the helmet. It was advertised in last month's RIDE magazine but I can't remember what it was called.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Ex's brother asked me to go helmet shopping with him, found a nice shoei raid II think it was. Anyway took it to the shop assitant to ask if they had a new one out back rather than the one on display. On handing it over "they" dropped it. Personally I think it was the shop assitants fault, but he immediately tutted and made John pay for it......!!
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would of told them to go fuck themselves.

Dropping a lid is fine.

Your head isn't it in.

So there's not a force inside to actually compress the impact layer.

Don't listen to the bullshit.

But if you think it's had a bad smash, replace it, I don't care, it's not my brain.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, suppose Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also hear that helmets have an expiry date Question Exclamation Question

Is that true, how does a helmt go off Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]You can get something which sticks onto your helmet which lights up if your helmet gets a knock bad enough to mean you need to replace the helmet. It was advertised in last month's RIDE magazine but I can't remember what it was called.
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Was this an issue released on the 1st April?

Fuck me what an absurd idea. It would be about as reliable as the old wives tale itself.
£10 says I could stick it to the top of my skull and comfortably head butt a wall to make it light up.


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PostPosted: 13:24 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also heard that??

Anyone know if its true??????

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PostPosted: 13:25 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOH! I Fecked up the quotes there and quoted myself if you know what I mean...... Embarassed
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:

Dropping a lid is fine.

Your head isn't it in.

So there's not a force inside to actually compress the impact layer.


totally agree.. there's not enough oomph in an empty lid to cause any deformation of the shell..

assuming it's not been dropped from a great height..

off a bike, or from hand at the side of your body, it shoud be fine
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I've also hear that helmets have an expiry date Question Exclamation Question

Is that true, how does a helmt go off Thinking


they don't so much 'go off' but UV light can attack fibres, breaking them down, as can grease and oils from your hair, gloves (if you use your lid as a handbag) and other stuff that gets in contact with your helmet. It those things that can, over time, deteriorate the lid.

most places recommend changing a lid every 5 years.

if your lid doesn't see the light of day, and is only used a couple of times a year, it'll last longer.

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PostPosted: 18:06 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

does the outside "shell" actually make much difference?

I thought it was the polyethene innards that absorb most of the inpact?

Surely in a crash situation the outter shell is just there to slide rather than act as an equalizer?
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
On handing it over "they" dropped it. Personally I think it was the shop assitants fault, but he immediately tutted and made John pay for it......!!


I'd have fucked them right off. They can't make you pay for accidental breakages in a shop. They display items to the general public at their own risk. If they don't want to take the risk, they should keep them behind the counter/glass where you can't touch them.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me, next time one of you guys has an old helmet just try and destroy it Very Happy

we had an old AGV one that was dead so tried to damage it, threw it on the ground, jumped on it and chucked boulders on it and the shell never gave in Shocked

then ripped the polystyrine out and that took ages to damage and never fragmented, threw it down, jumped on it, even hit it with a hammer that left an indentation. the only way we could kill it was by dropping a ball hammer on it, then the polystyrene gave in.

as for the shell, it is still in one piece! Very Happy we couldn't damage it, only managed a huge crack, we even set fire to it and that did very little! lol got pics of the remains somewhere, will post at some point lol
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decent helmets have the polystyrene inside painted black so if you drop it and the paint cracks you know it's borked.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What make of helmet do you have?

I know Arai do a free check of your helmet if you send it to them, postage will cost around £15.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonboy22 wrote:
how does a helmet go off Thinking


If it stinks of cheese I'd say it's on it's way.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gadget that you stick to your helmet which claims to tell you when it needs replacing is called a Shok-SpotR helmet sensor, £20, available from www.motohaus.com and this is what RIDE magazine wrote about it in the Aug 2006 issue:

"Knocking your new lid on the floor is not only annoying, it can also damage your helmet, although it can be difficult to tell. Which is where this sensor helps out.

The Shok-SpotR uses sensor detection technology developed for laptop computers to log the deceleration rate of your helmet during an impact. The point at which the sensor activates has been set by the manufacturer and is based on a series of tests inspired by various worldwide helmet safety standards.

The sensor attaches to the back of your helmet and turns red if the impact is considered dangerously severe. "


And no, it wasn't in the April 1st issue!
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