80mph Speed Limit

[Kickstart]

Hi

Government document detailing the effects of raising the motorway speed limit to 80mph.

https://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_foi/documents/page/dft_foi_611725.pdf

Doesn't really fit with the horror stories they try to feed us.

All the best

Keith
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[Whosthedaddy]

10 mph faster

Like people are going to stick to that.
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[Wave2k]

It will never happen, if anything they will make it 60.

nanny state bollocks.
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[veeeffarr]

And bikes are still restricted to 70? Bastards.

[ram_doom]

I dont want it to change, I have a fear that if it goes up, then there will be a ZERO TOLERANCE approach to exceeding 80mph. Like fine and points for 1 mph over

And that just wont do
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[8316]

can't believe only cars would be allowed to go faster.pigs
but it says 80mph may be "too much" and so 72.5mph is more realistic.........
Gimme a break!
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[MRX Steve]

Although it only mentioned an increase for cars and vans, i would expect it would include other vehicles such as bikes as they already share a speed limit. I think it just meant goods vehicles would not be getting a speed increase from the 60mph they are already set at.

It does say “a raised speed limit would be enforced”, so this could mean speed cameras along all our motorways. So maybe it would be best just leaving it as it is, as currently you can easily travel at around 75 - 80 without the police doing any thing about it.
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[deputy]

I think that given that the police don't seem to mind people doing 80 on the motorway, there is no point in changing, as someone has already mentioned they would probably enforce an 80mph speed limit.

What I did find interesting was that half of motorway accidents are caused by goods vehicles. As far as I am concerned all HGV's should be limited to the inside lane, as most motorway congestion seems to occur when a truck doing 60mph tries to overtake another doing 59mph and takes 2 miles to do it and hence then restricts 2 lanes to 60mph. This then means that all the cars/vans move in to the outside lane and that then clogs up. This is even worse on dual carriageways as the cars just get stuck behind. I have lost track of the number of times I have been stuck behind a truck doing a 3mile overtaking manoeuver, it is so bloody infuriating.

[chalky143]

it doesnt really matter anyway...people exceed the motorway speed limit anyway!
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[deputy]

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Don't think I'm ever doing 60mph on a motorway in the inside lane unless I'm in me van.
It can take massive amounts of fuel to accelerate in a big lorry, so it can cost the driver a lot of money if they slow down, then have to accelerate again.

However people sitting up my arse in my car does annoy me (oddly enough, don't really have it happen on me bike ) - usually BMW X33/X5 drivers .

My 'big plan' for that is an amusingly named 'gapso', like a gatso, but measures the space between people.

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[torpedo]

lol G, but you'd always get some bastard infront who slams his anchors on and makes you get fined for the reduced gap!

tbh its easy enough to do 90mph or even over a ton on a motorway on a motorcycle... just look where your bloody going lol.

two lorries beside one another? not a problem....
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[Luke_Retrofly]

Hi
Yeah Ive heard that studies show, that if the speed limit is something more sensible then people will stick to.

Take really built up residential areas, you will see alot of poeple going 30 because it makes sense.

On the motorway 70 is a stupid number so no one bothers.

Its not speed cameras or traffic cops that are the problem, its the law we need to change.

Luke
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[APNess]

As has been mentioned, most people do 80 ish anyway, which translates into around 73mph real speed. If speed limit is up to 80 most people will do 90 (around 83mph) but I personally think it should only be in those lanes where chevrons are marked and there is a requirement to keep 2 chevrons between you and the vehicle in front (they appear on the M62 from Leeds to Manchester in places, and I think are a good idea, as most seem to abide by them).

I don't think it's speed that's the problem on the motorway, it's people driving too close to the vehicle in front that's the problem, and not being able to see someone up ahead bung their brakes on, so that the first thing they know about a car in front slowing down is when the smash the back of it.

Consideration should also be given to the legal limits of tyre tread too if the speed limit rises. Sit at a higher speed all day and your thin near illegal tyres are gonna get hotter faster and risk going pop...

Those are just my thoughts - I don't know what system/safeguards are in place in Germany but they've had fast roads for years and probably lower accident/death rates, so it proves that speed on it's own isn't the problem, it's crap driving.

[Rookie]

[Clanger]

The thing about GAPS is that some stoopid bugger will always fill it, no matter what you do...so in effect you end up going backwards!

In Holland and Brussels lorries arent allowed to drive on Sundays, I think thats a splendid idea...they should make that applicable to people towing caravans too!


(opens a big can of worms)
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[Teaman]

How will it be enforced due to the fluctuation in the speedo's acuracy the faster you go.
If they nab you for going too fast you could use this in court (although for you to be going 81 the speedo will most likely be reading 90)
its impossible to police effectively and fairly so they will start with the minority like bikers,
is it the autobahn where any speed is fine as long as your safe, tale gating will get a heavy bolocking and so on,


How about, instead of changing the speed limit, start enforcing correct lane useage I have noticed an increece in needing to undertake muppets doing 70 in the middle or fast lane when the inner lane is clear.
I dont use the inner lane if i can help it 1 due to having to over take lorrys all the time and 2 due to the lane damage by lorrys throwing my bike left to right
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