'Pay as you throw' call for waste

[zaknafien]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5290060.stm

Wahey, nice way to get me to burn everything instead. Yay for fucking the ozone over.
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[JonB]

Did anybody notice the bottom 5 recycling councils?

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

Why not impose restrictions on the producer's of packaging as opposed to punishing the people that use it.

I don't ask for the stuff I buy to be put into so many layers of packaging, nor do I think it's nevessary in many cases, so why do they produce it in the first place?

Dickhead government.

I think people should recycle, I do, but the people who produce packaging don't make it easy to do so.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Tend to agree that people should recycle, but most don't.

Personally I say make it simple. Why have a load of different days the bin men arrive for different things. Just have a large wheelie bin with seperate compartments which can be emptied into one lorry keeping it seperate.

All the best

Keith
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[Mister James]

The companies who produce over-packaged goods tend to have large legal departments and be willing to take action when they feel they are being shafted.

We individuals tend to sit back and take it, and when we do summon up the phlegm to complain, we are firmly slapped back into place by the council's large legal departments - paid for with our money!

I saw this and nearly had a heart attack I was so angry. I've already moaned about the compulsory recycling that has been introduced in my area, now they are considering tagging my bin and charging me even more?

I already pay obscene amounts of money for which the only visible service I receive is my bins being emptied - which has now halved in frequency - and now they expect me to pay more?!
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[craigie b]

Now big brother is watching every household to see how much rubbish they create.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6040229,00.html

Fucking outrageous

[Mister James]

Same story Ceebee!



Same story, same feeling of severe rage in stomach!
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[Bendy]

If you fill your wheelie bin too full around here, they slap a sticker on it telling you not to, and don't empty it.

Soon we're going to have 3 different coloured wheelie bins, plus paper recycling boxes. All very commendable I'm sure, but they'll only be collected every fortnight so really all that'll happen is lots of decaying stinking rubbish sitting outside peoples' houses.

[JonB]

Too right, in our council we have food bins that are collected every fortnight! What a disgrace, we have rotting food, becoming infested with maggots out in the back garden, because it was too stinky to leave in the house, yet the cretins of a local council only collect it twice a month.
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[Mister James]

Same here Jon.

What grips my shit the most is that while recognising the problems that flat-dwellers will have in complying with the new rules by not making it compulsory to recycle, they still only collect our bins half as often!

So, lets see - you agree it's too hard to make it compulsory to recycle in flats, but by your actions, you are going to force us to do it anyway?!

Madness.
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[WildGoose]

that'll be me cutting the lid of an oil drum and burning everything then

what a mess
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[PsychoHippy]

If they do start charging for the amount of waste produced, I shall be removing all excess packaging at the shops and telling them to dispose of it. As for the 'seperate bin for waste food', what waste food? I find my dogs are great for recycling that!
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[Itchy]

the movtivations are to fill Gordon Brown's 40bn black hole, under the pretense of recycling ,

since if they really did want us to recycle they would do what happened when my dad was a child , ie put a shilling deposit on bottles and packaging which was refundable , hell my news agent when I was younger not long ago used to take back milk bottles for 3p each.

Also this is being charged twice ie your council tax won't go down from this at all , such that as with a Siggi post a few months back , you are paying more for less , using a monopolised service , some cookies on my street though are using private bin lorries to dump their stuff , but then again they are party machines and make so so much waste the council bin men refuses to move their bins.
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[byke95]

It's sad how this has become a battle with councils, a 'tax' issue and people thinking it's a conspiracy to fill budget deficits as this really misses the point.

We should recycle. No, we need to recycle.

I don't consider myself a tree hugger at all but I'm quite passionate about recycling waste. It's really easy to do and as long as the council are willing to pick it up, I can't see the problem.

Not buying pre-packaged foods makes this a lot easier.

Sadly, when we refuse to change our ways and not recycle (as a society) it always comes down to money/fines, it's the only way any government knows how to govern.

[Kickstart]

[byke95]

[Bendy]

I'm all for the recycling, but I don't like the way our local council are using it as an excuse to collect general rubbish less - I want it taken away before it starts to stink.

At the moment, we can recycle tins in our paper box, but as they sit in the kitchen for up to two weeks, we have to wash them. But aren't we supposed to be saving water?

When the bins arrive, apparently we can just chuck dirty tins into the 'cans and plastic' bin. That's gonna be nice when it's stewed in the sun for a couple of weeks.


Totally agree on the excess packaging.

[Annabella]

I think we must be very lucky in Dudley as we have a normal household rubbish collection once a week then on alternating weeks the recycling box (newspapers, junk mail, tins and bottles) and green (garden waste) bin are collected.

I agree with the less packaging arguement. I got moaned at by a checkout woman last week for not putting my individual veggies (one aubergine, one pepper etc etc) in plastic bags.
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[Itchy]

[Itchy]

I have 5 bins
one for glass ,
one for garden waste
a black one for normal waste
a black box for tins
a bright green one for paper (stubbie)

the gov thought ah I know lets only pick up bins once every 2 weeks , which made bins heavy and bin men refused to pick them up so people had to go to the tip.

so they thought lets empty bins once every 3 weeks, at which a huge petition was written and many people complained due to lots of bin banditiing (ie putting waste in other people's bins), and went back to once a week and once every 4 weeks for all the rest.

EVERYTHING boils down to money , the government are a labour government and would really love a 192% income tax rate but can't get away with it.
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[Robby]

Recycling is pointless. Like so many things, the propaganda machine tells us its great, but in reality the impact is zero.

If you have a large estate car, totally fill it up with recycling stuff, and take it to the your local recycling centre 2 miles away, you're causing more environmental damage from driving that distance than your carload of bottles and paper is helping.

The planet is not dieing. We are not running out of oil. We are not down to 5 trees left in the world. Global warming is not a problem caused by human activity. Sea levels are not rising uniformly around the globe.
So fuck it all.

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[craigie b]

Its simple economics. By 2008 we wil not be able to open more landfills. Where then will the council dump the rubbish?

[Robby]