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PostPosted: 11:04 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Physiology Analysis Reply with quote

Serious help here not answers like nutcase please.

A family member hasnt been right for years now. He is 29 and when he was 20 he took a nervous breakdown over a younger girl telling him he didnt want him.

He ended up in a mental home and became epilectic as a result and depressive. Not normal behavior for a statr IMO

9 years later he has his first girlfriend.

He also has £22000 worth of debt, is dependant on everyone and treats his GF like crap and she puts up with it.

Alot feel sorry for him because he can pull a guilt trip because of the epilepsy especiallythe GF.

Now what i see.

He live in the clouds, he is serious and takes things to far like how many shops he will buy and how much money he will make (obcessed with money) you cant get him off the hig horse as he cant even aford to eat.

He has selective hearing and hears stuff that people are suppose to have said and didnt.

He tells his GF he is going to kill himself by not taking his med and having a fit on a pier (he was on sucide watch once)

He blackmails another family member when asked for rent and actually takes a fit to make them feel bad.
He also drives which i think is not on. has the full licence and all, dvlni gave it back to him cause of no fits.

He hangs around with people less than half his age ie 13 some even younger have been seen in his car. he has been warned about this and has not stopped him over the years, he thinks they are his mates but they are not as he cant see they are using him and telling people nasty rumours about him.

He disrespects his mother and GF in the same way, when asked does he want dinner the answer is FO and the same to GF.

His mother says he is not right in the head.

His mates have smashed his car up and he contiues to hang about with them as he has no backbone.

He does not live in reality as plans buying speedboats not his dinner. He has never bought dinner in his life, makes his GF or work mates buy it.

If you say something he does not like 3 years down the line he will continue to bring it up again and again,. he does not like anyone getting anything and thinks he is not being treated right when he does get everything.

He goes to clubs and gets no sleep, clais he dont drink, or take drugs. Drives teens round the town instead till about 7am (he has been seen and trheats been made) he dosnt learn from his mistakes at all.

Never says thank yuo even when told. When you try and talk about his behavior he ignores you, and walks away.Also the rest family pussyfoot around him incase they offend him and he goes into a mental home. He is either extremly smart at geting whathe wants or out of it.

Half me says he is a spoilt brat but there is more to this. Is there a name anywhere because we cant make him go to a doc, if i could get a name or some information maybe to help it would be great.

Serious answers please.

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PostPosted: 11:46 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Physiology Analysis Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
Half me says he is a spoilt brat but there is more to this. Is there a name anywhere because we cant make him go to a doc, if i could get a name or some information maybe to help it would be great.

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A name for what exactly.... his condition, what?
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Physiology Analysis Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
Is there a name anywhere because we cant make him go to a doc, if i could get a name...

I'll give him a name - 'Terry Nob Jockey' - use it whenever you see him and he'll soon bugger off Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:06 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a complete c*nt to be honest. That would be my medical term for it too. Using his fits as a tool of leverage on others.

Why doesnt everyone just ignore him. If he pretends to fit, leave him there. It's what you do anyway. Or of course, call an ambulance and let them take him away. Then when the realise he's not genuine, they'll give him a right grilling.

You dont say how close the 'family member' is, if it was my brother, i'd give him a damn good kicking for being an obnoxious c*nt. if it was a cousin, I'd disown them. Nephew, then a kicking again.

If all he is doing is hurting people, the really try to leave him to it. Everyone should be firm with him and not let him get away with shit. Until EVERYONE does, he will not change. Hell, if I could throw a fit (literally) to get my way all the time, I'd be doing it! Easy street!
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:15 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep you all think what i think he is a complete wa*ker!

I was hoping there was a condition we could get him signed i think a slap in the chops is more in order but others around me feel sorry for this leech.

Killa gave me the thread title! grrrr Twisted Evil Laughing

i was going to go for :Is he a psycho?
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure i told you to put down psychology....doesn't matter though. Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I copyed and pasted what you typed as i cant spell most the time lol

dont matter anyway Cool
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
Yep you all think what i think he is a complete wa*ker!

I was hoping there was a condition we could get him signed i think a slap in the chops is more in order but others around me feel sorry for this leech.

Killa gave me the thread title! grrrr Twisted Evil Laughing

i was going to go for :Is he a psycho?


yes there is , its called the army , the army loves sociopaths and always have loved them, previously before conditioning was used it was thought that 2-3% of soldiers did the fighting , with the other lot keeping their heads down or passing around ammo, Grub Smith years ago made a program about killing.

Though since WWII conditioning has been applied to all soldiers such that killing becomes more of a reflex than something you have to think about which in itself causes a ton of psychological problems
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

they or a full frontal labotomy.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think immediate family membes can get him sectioned, if he is a danger to society or himself.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

See figuring out is he just a smart prat or a real looper is what i was after.

The army would crumble him!

I mean you should see how he treats his GF he dosnt deserve her! you would not treat anyone with such disrespect ever. He dilerbratly makes her think he is seeing someone else when in reality no one would go near him. He has tried to get her to get a loan and holds it against her for being turned down.

My mum treats him like star child, and they are sick of his behavior. He thinks he is 15?? is that not like a wacko jacko case?

And yes he is my bro and wants to stay in this house with me when my parents move out Embarassed apparently he is a scob also, and i am not buying him his food and being his mum.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a thought why are women seemingly real or otherwise imagined always with blokes who treat them badly?
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

He hates his GF and will openly sayit infront of people and his mates have said this to her to try and make her see sence, then he treats her nice occasionaly when he wanst to. She is too weak to leav him as she is afraid he will kill himself.

He has been on a hitlist once for a nasty organisation and my dad found uot through his mate who told him, his name was removed only for my dad. We are angry because he made himself look like a drug dealer, this is how he got in debt, he spend it all on impressing people and showing his cards off and taking young ones around in his car.

This is not normal i dont believe.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is he driving when he has seizures? I'm pretty sure it is against the law to drive unless you do not have seizures for X number of years. Report him to the police and have his car confisticated. That should teach him a lesson.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

He lost the licence for two years and was given it back again. What we want to kow is he took a seizure in his car one day and he still has licence? does his doctor report him or us?

I wont get into the car with him because of this and my mum is in bits most nights thinking he is dead somewhere.

I dont liek the idea myself otherrs could die because of him. I am thining of reporting him but he will take a breakdown or somethig and if he does do soething stupid i will feel guilty. He hs tried to kill himself and nearly stabbed me in the process of me trying to stop him. Also we used to find knifes and stuff hidden in his room.

Dont kow what to do .
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple. It's direct family. Get him sectioned.

If he plants a knife in your chest one day, what are you going to do? "Oh well, it's my brother I cant do much..."

Bollocks, call the men in white coats and get him in a padded cell. Then he can fit all he likes!
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because someone's family it doesnt mean there is any reason why you should maintain contact or help them out.

Perhaps I'm a bit callous but I'd have nothing to do with someone like that, he will end up in a situation that people won't be able to bail him out of.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard when its your brother Reuban and you have to live with him.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save up and move. Really, people are people, if he's willing to be a complete wanker towards you the excuse 'but he's my brother' doesnt wash. Your looking for a reason to justify it, why not realise that he could just be an utter cock?

If he was a mate would you still stay around him. If it was an immediate relative of mine I'd cut tie's to a minimum ASAP.

"Family" IS NOT a valid reason.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting my parents house , they are moving out. He cant move cause he will get killed in this new estate due to being a hated figure about here. I cant afford any other house and the deal i got here was great. I do care about him as he is my brother, and i did care even more there duringthe week when chav scum dragged my name ito a fight with him and put pics of me up on the internet. That has been stopped now as i had someone have a word to diassociate me with him. He has been warned if he is living with me and BF he is to act his age! somehow i can see him run to my mum and dad as i cant see him paying his way in life.

So i dont think i need to move from here, he will.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:


If he was a mate would you still stay around him. If it was an immediate relative of mine I'd cut tie's to a minimum ASAP.

"Family" IS NOT a valid reason.


I totally agree. My brother is 30. Never been able to hold a job down for more than a year. He's been out of work now for 3 years and still my parents pay his way. he gets his JSA/Dole/whatever it is but still asks for 'bus money' like he's a school kid. It really annoys me. I try to pay my way, but i I buy my own food and beers and stuff, he eats/drinks it all without even asking!

I want to move out as I feel a burden on my parents at 25, so I have no idea what he is! All I know is I have very little respect for him now. He is just a dole monkey and I have to say, I am ashamed of him.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness it does sound like the bloke has more wrong with him other than just being a 'total wanker'.
It sounds like he has a the mental age of a 13 year old but the credit facilities of a 20 year old. I don't feel too sorry for the credit card companies. No doubt he'll be forced into bankrupcy.

A friend of mine has had a tough time recently when he had to take the hard steps to get his own father sectioned. His parents had been separated for years but this just came at a bad time just after his mother died.
It would be easy for him to ignore it living in another part of the country but he knew what he had to do.
It sounds like your family don't want to admit it but it's probably time to start putting together a dosier on why this lad should be under supervision.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think he will move to your parents then good.

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and i did care even more there duringthe week when chav scum dragged my name ito a fight with him and put pics of me up on the internet

When someone start's making your life difficult then they really arent worth bothering with, regardless of who they are. The guy's had plenty of time to sort himself out by now, if he was a young 20 then fair enough, but he isnt.

Sorry if you don't like this soloution and it may be wrong, I dont know your brother, but from what you've said this is what I'd do if I was in your shoes.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do appreciate your comments Reuban and your point of view. Thank you.

I hope my name will not be dragged into it again. I used to ignore his existance as i didnt like how he went on and he kept his life separate from mine. I am embarssed to be assiociated with him. Now i have to listen to my parents come to me for solutions as they have let him go to far.

Your comments are being putto them by the way and are helping. My dad laughed and agreed he was a complete wa*ker for a start.

Dont think this fella will evr change, iwish he had a GF who would wipe him into shape and take him away from us, but thats not likely at this stage.
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