Robin Hood society

[plugger147]

Robin robbed from the rich not the law abiding average joe, it's the people who work hard honestly and are getting average pay who are getting shafted.

If thing's carry on the way they are then more and more people are gonna be joining the takers until the tower collapse's.
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[Robby]

Then you chuck in a few other little complications like national debt, and you see why a lot of people want to get out of this country before it collapses. You wouldn't see a sudden collapse, it never happens like that, but a gradual over my lifetime.

Of course, once it all does collapse, and all the dole scum will be dead or will have learnt to work, we'd have a good strong base to start anew from.

[Teamcalibra]

Annoys me how I work full time and pay tax, NI and a pension. I then also have a private pension. I then have private health care. All this because the government isn't providing for us.

The money that I worked for and already paid tax on then is saved into my bank account. I earn a little interest and get taxed again. WTF????

[Ste]

[mr jamez]

Didn't the conservatives sell all our public services to their 'friends'? and stole huge amounts of money from councils? Scammed money from council houses? And I hear the companies behind the ID card (and other projects) are closely related to Blair and his buddies. The best politicians are the sneakiest and most devious, Blair has got to be right at the top I mean look at the huge amount of scandal over the years, yet he always comes up smelling of roses

So yeah, I bet they are all feathering their nests.
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[Ste]

[Mister James]

Regardless of our views on the government, to suggest that most people on benefits or the dole are doing it for anti-fat-cat reasons is a farce.

Even if it were true, I fail to see how you can justify taking money from taxpayers to fuel your idleness, especially if it is just out of spite for the government.
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[msgander]

the job issue comes down to self respect.

Pittance or not....
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[Mister James]

Then you are adding to the problem, not the solution. Why should I work 44hrs a week - in a better paid but far more dangerous job - and pay ruinous levels of tax so that others can sit at home all day enjoying themselves?

If you don't find that a supermarket job appeals to your highly evolved sensibilities, then pull your finger out and get a better one! Judging by the morons swaggering around my local Tesco's trying to look tough with a cordless phone, just about anyone can become a manager.
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[Spiral]

[Ste]

[Retro-Man]

Siggi has made one valid point I agree with.

How many times can the same £1 earned be taxed, I would be happy to pay income tax at a higher rate and then no other tax at all but then that would highlight the fact that in some cases over 80% of what is earned will go back to the government in some way.
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[Fran]

Now this is an interesting thread

Ive often been given shit for sponging off society for being a student and using tax payers money to feed my brain - catagorised just like the dole scum you are talking about here.

They and I all have their own reasons for being in that situation and I dont think it is wise to tar everyone with the same brush.

I could have continued in my minimum wage job, paying the tax on what little I earned, but no, I now have 20k debt to the student loans company and will earn 3 times more money to be taxed on, so whos the winner there?

It makes me laugh the student loan system, I will never pay the overall debt, the amount they take each month is far less than the amount it adds on in interest, and if I was a mug and tried to pay it off early I'll loose out........the government sucks in this country.

[WildGoose]

you dont half make a drama out of it siggi, you're so hard done by, had such a difficult lot in life

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/capitalism.jpg

its the way its always been, and will always be, it is the nature of the particular system we live in (right down to the grass roots of capitalism, am i wrong? ), did it ever occur to you to get used to it, by the way im not that fond of how it works either

as you have pointed out, lots given the chance would go somewhere else, so why dont you tag along, its everybodys right to exist somewhere they want to

i've never set the world on fire with what i earn, but have always managed to live comfortably, and between me and my partner despite paying quite a high level of bills and rent like most others, we seem to get most of what we want

so what are you doing that makes you life so difficult and that makes it so hard to enjoy yourself with the pittance remaining after aforementioned bills and outgoings, not a piss take (though perhaps worded to emphasise the point) i'd genuinely like to know what specifically makes your life so miserable by living within the rules of the UK, and living on what youve earned after tax etc?

or is it purely the principle behind it all, that its inherently wrong?

to reply to the original post from yoko, i dont like people that sponge, claim benefits because its easier, go on the dole because they are lazy or a million people turning up at the docks and reeling off what they are entitled to demand.. before actually asking. but i dont know the answer
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[Teaman]

so how come I was better off when I was on incapacity benefit than what I am now working, technicly Im not as its a pride thing but i was worse off on incapacity than someone on the dole,

ok so when I was on incapacity I was doing about 50 hours a week voluntary work and finally managed to get paid the max ammount before having to declair it,

after I decided that Id had enough and I was going to get a steady job, the only way I could have money to spend is to work 11 hours days every day, 2 jobs,
eventually this proved too much mentally so I quit my evening job,
Now im living beyond me means because Im working 38-45 hours a week @7.15 an hour as an engineer, honestly I have enough money to live on and pay for my bike but I dont have any back up money to pay for tyres and other things, Lucky my ex doesnt do the csa thing, she is on way more than me


Ive been wondering I wonder if i can go for dissability working allowance? might be worth a try I guess,.

the robin hood thing, its not the benefits that are the problem, its the fact that there too eager to hand them out,
I think bennefits should be based on your own individual national security contributions. unless you cant work for some reason (not including those pie munches getting dla, they need shooting imo)
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