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andrea
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 13 Sep 2006    Post subject: God Bless The NHS?! Reply with quote

Makes a change with something good to say Shocked

Rode my bike only about 20 miles today, and my wrist/hand hurt so much from using the clutch that in the end it went numb. Didnt have my card on me to buy a sports injury bandage, just had enough change to buy some ibuprofen gel - which did absolutely bugger all to stop it hurting Sad

I didnt think i could make it home as my hand was refusing to pull in the clutch, when a friend suggested i pop into the local minor injuries unit. Got there and told them i'd pulled the tendons/muscles in my wrist when moving the bike and they gave me a wrist support with splint Smile

Did 100 odd miles after that with hardly any problems at all! Very Happy Well chuffed, im all fixed Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 13 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just about to offer to keep the r6 running whilst you recover from injury Laughing Laughing Laughing


Glad its better Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear your hand is ok Thumbs Up

Is there no form of adjustment on your R6's clutch lever? Some bikes have a small dial at the pivot joint, which when tuned alters how far the lever is out. Sounds like yours is to far open for you to comfortably operate it. Failing that, loosen the pinch bolt on the instrument cluster and rotate the whole lot on the clip-on upwards and towards you so the lever is at less of an angle. If it's too far down it can cause a lot of strain as you stretch your fingers reaching down for it.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh? Doesn't everyone get a bit of clutch hand ache syndrome when they start using a geared bike? Not sure it would require hospital assistance?

If anything "New driver, clutch ankle ache syndrome" hurts more. Confused
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

And people wonder why the NHS is going down the shitter.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
eh? Doesn't everyone get a bit of clutch hand ache syndrome when they start using a geared bike? Not sure it would require hospital assistance?

If anything "New driver, clutch ankle ache syndrome" hurts more. Confused


Not everyone is blessed with a body made from rock Wink . The poor girls not used to her new bike's more sporty riding position and combined with a harsh clutch it would quickly cause agony. A splint is ideal and like all treatments is best applied professionally. The minor injuries units are there for just such a purpose and are not hospital assistance as such. They were set up to help reduce the non essential case load on A&E and imo she did the right thing.

To quote from the NHS

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You do not need an appointment to visit a Minor Injuries Unit. Minor Injuries Units are led by highly qualified nurse practitioners with more experience and expertise than many a doctor in this kind of treatment.

Minor Injuries Units can treat a wide variety of problems including:

Cuts/grazes and lacerations
Sprains and strains
Broken bones (fractures)
Bites and stings (including human/animal bites)
Infected wounds
Minor head injuries
Minor eye infections, foreign bodies & scratches
If you are not sure whether your injury is minor and can be treated in a Minor Injuries Unit, telephone NHS Direct on 0845 4647, who can advise you and direct you to the most appropriate place for your care.


Don't worry Andrea, your wrists will soon strengthen up as they get used to the strain Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 17:34 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
And people wonder why the NHS is going down the shitter.



It is exactly for instances like that where local injury units and other 'local' services are intended. I imagine Andrea didn't see an expensive consultant nor an equally expensive GP - either of whom she could have gone to easily.

I am positive that her treatment (including the cost of the splint) was far less than the cost of her going to see her GP, then getting a prescription for a splint.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

She had a sore wrist after riding a new sports bike, hardly worth a visit really was it ?
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pffft.

You've (probably) paid taxes and national insurance all your life - you've got every right to claim a bit of it back when you need it.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
She had a sore wrist after riding a new sports bike, hardly worth a visit really was it ?


Actually yes it is. If it's gone beyond mere riding pain and become a sprain is is very important she gets it looked at or risk it becoming worse, though not having the load taken off it to allow recovery.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was more than a mere ache im afraid to say. When it got to the point where i was far from home and couldnt operate the clutch on a bike im new too, i felt it would be better to get the problem sorted there and then at a Minor Injuries Unit rather than leaving it and risking an accident (it really was that bad, i had no feeling in my hand at the end of it, but shooting pains from my wrist almost to my elbow). Im sure an accident (that was easily prevented)would cost the NHS more?

Its still not 100% but much better Smile
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
She had a sore wrist after riding a new sports bike, hardly worth a visit really was it ?



Yes! That's the point. I would rather see the NHS treat Andrea's injury NOW than later when it could develop into something more serious (and costly) that could have been prevented by a simple splint. As we've already seen riding sports bikes can cause tennis elbow - which is far more costly to the NHS to treat as treatment ranges from steroid injections to physiotherapy sessions.

Now, let's add this up shall we?

Cost of Splint £5 (ish?)
Time of staff - 20 minutes a fair time? £8 (for a senior nurse)

Total cost: £13

Alternative:
Initial GP contact £12 (depends on PCT)
Referral cost (paper work, commissioning) £2.50
3 Physiotherapy sessions £60

Total cost: £74.50



Ignore a problem, let it get worse. Treat it, and prevent serious injury.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Why is it your clutch hand that is suffering? Would think that the throttle hand would have a harder time.

What condition is the clutch cable in and does it have standard springs.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:40 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
Ignore a problem, let it get worse. Treat it, and prevent serious injury.


I agree Thumbs Up

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Why is it your clutch hand that is suffering? Would think that the throttle hand would have a harder time.

What condition is the clutch cable in and does it have standard springs.

All the best

Keith


My throttle hand aches a little, but not half as bad as my clutch hand. I honestly couldn't say what condition the clutch cable is in and whether it has standard springs, but i intend to find out. Will pop to see my friends at CMC tomorrow and ask them to have a look for me.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would expect a stock R6 clutch to be reasonably light. Not really any heavier than one the 500s typically used for DAS training. Might be worth adjusting the angle of the clutch lever (easy to do).

However an old clutch cable (any not even very old) or dodgy routing would result in a far heavier clutch.

Just replaced the clutch cable on my FZR600 which was little more than a year old.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:27 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could just loosen the clutch adjuster.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
Or you could loosen the clucth adjuster.


Might well help, but won't make the clutch any lighter.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:35 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best to play about with it until it feels lighter then. Do the same for the throttle as i had mine on very sensitive & felt alot better.

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PostPosted: 20:46 - 14 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I last didn't ride for a couple months, then went out for a big ride in one shot my wrists ached quite a lot afterwards. Aches soon went away with further use, and without injuries Wink
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