Police target driving 'loopholes' - again

[Bigeds]

From BBC News site this morning.

[bazza]

[Mister James]

If anyone was ever on the receiving end of this new team in court, all they'd have to do would be to present news stories like the above to the bench. Given the stated purpose of the team is to provide a financial disincentive to justice, even if you lost the driving case you'd have a good case not to pay for the Crown's costs.
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[bazza]

While we're at it, how does the ACPO get to interfere with CPS procedures? Being as it's a private association and all...

Maybe we could ask MAG[1] to influence prosecutions involving bikes?



[1] Note: Or BMF, but ideally we'd be looking for a result in favour of bikers.
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[Welsh Al]

Loopholes?.
What are these loopholes?. Innocence?.
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[stinkwheel]

They say this like someone using a loophole is doing something illegal. They're not, if there is a loophole there, it is legal to use it until such time as parliment acts to close it.

[Mrs Kickstart]

Hi,

Or "we cant prove you are gulity but we think you are so do not argue"

The 4000 costs is a bit iffy too, case law indicates that 4.5 times the fine is not approite 2.5 times is more like the real max.
However I think is not about the cost but to use the 4K figure to frighten people into not challanging offences and to confess and pay regardless of the guilt or cirumstances.

Will be intersting to see what will happen if they try it.

Regards
Charlotte
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[Walloper]

Improve your driving behaviour and you'll not have the 'Old Bill' on your back.

What was the question?
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[mr jamez]

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Incidentally, this issue was the exact reason I pleaded guilty when I at the most did not know if I was guilty - and later evidence, not presented in the court, from the police led me to believe I was innocent.

However I could not afford the risk of trying to investigate or prove my innocence.

[TheShaggyDA]

[Mrs Kickstart]

[mr jamez]

[owdamer]

Theres a story on the bbc website today about some guy lying to get out of a speeding charge. you can read it here. https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/5346928.stm

[Walloper]

By the 'Law' of averages, most of the people charged and successfully prosecuted for motoring offences ARE guilty.
I'm happy it is this way.
This system 'helps' towards keeping our highways free of the drunk, careless, dangerous and some of the idiotic drivers who use our roads.

If you are NOT guilty then your allowed to plead NOT guilty.

To say, "I do not know who was driving my car." is some cop out if the car was used to commit a serious crime or involved in a fatal accident.

Now isn't that a stupid thing to say even for BCF?
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[froggeh]

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[Kickstart]

[froggeh]

[Kickstart]

[krebsy]

[krebsy]

Additionally, The role of the prosecution is to prove that you are guilty. you do not need to prove per se that you are innocent. The burden of proof is on their shoulders. The nub and gist of the issue with cameras is that the police have made it an offence NOT to incriminate yourself or another party if your vehicle is caught speeding. this is classified as "extracting a confession under duress" and is not submissable as evidence under any other criminal charge.

They need to prove you did commit the crime, not force you to admit you did it.

If all they have is your numberplate then there is no proof that you were driving at the time and they must, by themselves, prove you were the driver if they wish to prosecute you. Sadly this seems to have slipped through the net legal wise.

K.
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[froggeh]

Couldn't have put it more succinctly.

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