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PostPosted: 16:07 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Why is it that... Reply with quote

On my mates Speetshite scooter braided brake hoses are standard items and on my RXS100 thats nearly 20 years old there's a rear hugger as standard?

Yet on thousands of pounds sports bikes none of thee are standard Confused

Weird!
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Why is it that... Reply with quote

chris_biker wrote:
On my mates Speetshite scooter braided brake hoses are standard items and on my RXS100 thats nearly 20 years old there's a rear hugger as standard?

Yet on thousands of pounds sports bikes none of thee are standard Confused

Weird!


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PostPosted: 16:11 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So genuinely wanting to know why something is is pointless then?
Ok then mate....
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Why is it that... Reply with quote

Ignore mrtee, he's on the blob Thumbs Up Wink

My old cbr600 from 1989 had a hugger too Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the things huggers and braided hoses have in common is that they cost bugger all to make in quantity and can be sold at a huge mark-up as upgrades.

When i were a lad, huggers were called mudguards, and they came free with the bike.

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PostPosted: 16:27 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Why is it that... Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
Ignore mrtee, he's on the blob Thumbs Up Wink



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PostPosted: 16:28 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO the hugger thing it's down to a specs war, my bike is lighter than yours so there, type thing. As also said, it saves the makers a little bit of time in manufacture and a little bit of money in parts and tooling. The sports bikes are also sold under the guise of race replicas, when did you last see a rear mudguard on one of those?

As for braided hoses only really needed when the original lines start to go (or unless you're racing, but that's a different ball game). The originals will last a good few years - well past the 1st MOT @ 3 years anyhow - so the manufacturers don't need to worry (and it saves them money too).

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PostPosted: 16:46 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Why is it that... Reply with quote

chris_biker wrote:
on my RXS100 thats nearly 20 years old there's a rear hugger as standard?


My ex lodger bought an RXS100 new, and I don't recall a rear hugger on it. Do you mean a mudguard?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Why is it that... Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
chris_biker wrote:
on my RXS100 thats nearly 20 years old there's a rear hugger as standard?


My ex lodger bought an RXS100 new, and I don't recall a rear hugger on it. Do you mean a mudguard?


Yeah sorry, my bad!
My point is that theres something to stop the back end being sprayed in crap when theres no rear shock, but on other bikes where there IS a shock, theres no form pf protection as standard.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
The sports bikes are also sold under the guise of race replicas, when did you last see a rear mudguard on one of those?

Yamaha YZR-M1: Here (click)

Or the Honda RC211V: Here (click)

Or Kawsaki ZX-RR: Here (click)

On the Suzuki GSV-R it's kind of attached to the swingarm: Here (click)
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
map wrote:
The sports bikes are also sold under the guise of race replicas, when did you last see a rear mudguard on one of those?

Yamaha YZR-M1: Here (click)

Or the Honda RC211V: Here (click)

Or Kawsaki ZX-RR: Here (click)

On the Suzuki GSV-R it's kind of attached to the swingarm: Here (click)


The above bikes are not race replicas thay are the real thing.

As for Huggers they don't do much, its more about looks. If a R1 had a mudguard like the RSX100, GP100, etc then they wouldn't sell because of the looks. So they raised the back end up way high and moved the shocker from the sides to under the center of the seat (monoshock, Unitrack, Proarm...) and added a flap of plastic they called a hugger. Its all about looks. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huggers are there to keep shit off the shocks, simple as. Put a hugger on and your rear shock will be much much happier for it.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack_Cheese wrote:
Huggers are there to keep shit off the shocks, simple as. Put a hugger on and your rear shock will be much much happier for it.


But most people that buy aftermarket huggers are to scared to let their bikes go out if there is a cloud in the sky. Wink

They are not that good at protecting the shock anyway, not in real rain (not the pissy dribbles we have been having recently).
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They deflect grit, and stones. Unless your shock is mounted stupidly high or you have a stupidly short hugger, it should prevent most nasty things such as grit salt and stones getting at it. Granted some shorted huggers are there for the sake of tartiness, but then can also lengthen the life of the shock.

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PostPosted: 22:18 - 05 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my gtr has a hugger as standard - well its two interlocking pieces of plastic which keep the shock clean. you cant actually see it until you go looking for it, so i was thinking about getting a new one coz it looks trick...
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