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yambabe
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Beware of the dog? Reply with quote

As some of you know, I have a fairly young (3) staffie cross who can get a bit over-excited at times although he is mostly good.

Thing is, he hates anyone who looks unusual. He will go mental barking at anyone who approaches wearing a crash helmet (not good!) and he hates the postman with a vengeance.

This morning, because it was a warm day and I was in, the back door was open and he went for the postman yet again. He backs off at the last minute so I don't think the postie is in any serious danger but it shook him up a bit and I feel pretty bad.

It's not a major problem as usually the dog is in the house with the door locked (he is clever enough to be able to open it by himself if it's not locked) but I am wondering if, for my own protection from a potential court case and for the sake of the dog not doing something which would force me to have him put down, it is time to invest in one of those american-style post boxes at the front gate. And a new "dog on premises enter at own risk" sign as well - the dog ate the last one......... Embarassed

Bloody dog. Sad
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that would be a good idea.

Its not very nice for the postie to be subjected to your dogs wrath Rolling Eyes You never know the dog might actually, complete his mission one of these days, and bite the poor bloke.

Imagine the hassle and upset that would bring you.

Better to be safe than sorry.

I dont know where you would get one of those postboxes from though, or how expensive they are.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might give you an idea:

https://www.postboxshop.com/home.php

https://www.mailboxesdirect.co.uk/shop/catalog/


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PostPosted: 11:31 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of area do you live in? Those postboxes are hardly secure, and with all the identity theft stuff going on, it could properly land you in the sh!t.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a fairly quiet residential culdesac and we're right at the end.

Wonder if I can arrange to collect my mail, ot have it delivered to my local post office (which is next door believe it or not Laughing ) instead?
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

muzzle Wink or get it trained.


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PostPosted: 12:31 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about rather than changing things to suit the dog, change the dog! i dont mean get rid of the pooch by any means i myself and my better half have two staffords they are extremely well behaved, though only through training, i would approach the local vet to see if they can recommend a good local dog trainer, as it sounds like yours is a bit of a hooligan
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

base wrote:
what about rather than changing things to suit the dog, change the dog! i dont mean get rid of the pooch by any means i myself and my better half have two staffords they are extremely well behaved, though only through training, i would approach the local vet to see if they can recommend a good local dog trainer, as it sounds like yours is a bit of a hooligan



or get a big boot Laughing itll soon learn that barking at postman = swore as*
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have three staff's and they all have a serious vendetta for anyone who dares to come within touching distance of our front door. Just put up a baby gate in the hallway to stop them getting to the door. Although somehow the smallest one seems to be able to squeeze under still.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a stick on sign from pets at home which says something like "beware of the dog" and cable tie it to the gate
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi.

It costs 57 quid a year for a PO box which would work for most mail. You would just need a bin for the junk mail.

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PostPosted: 23:01 - 20 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our large dog has the post away..
papers
kids
hands...
the list goes on
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we have a sign on the door

'risk - dog on premises'

it warns people

you stick you fuggin hand in..
he'll have you

DON'T DO IT YOU FUKWIT !!

keep yer fingers

(..and, he is not malicious..just guardy and big ) Very Happy Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i quite like the idea of the post box
but i doubt your dog will bite, and i think postmen are used to noisy dogs who's bark is worse than their bite

i used to have a staffy who once charged at a postman barking and when she got to him she rolled on her back to have her tummy rubbed, while he was holding his bag in front of him as a defence
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 21 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easy way would be to get a postbox fitted, the harder and perhaps safer way would be to get your postie on board and get your dog to 'like' him.

This would only be a matter of getting the postie to come in with a variety of your dogs bestest treats, chicken, hotdog, cheese, or whatever, and initially just throw it down and progress to offering it directly. You would have to have him on a long line initially to stop any accidents. Its probably a long slog, and quite hard unless the postie is fully onboard, and you can be bothered getting up everyday Confused

Post box it is then !
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

your best doing something as the postie can refuse to deliver to you cause of your dogs behaviour.
i used to deliver catalogue parcels and some i just threw in the garden as no way would i even go near the gate. also kicked a few dogs otherwise i would have got bitten. and once i even let a dog out of a shed without knowing it was in there and it went on the road and got killed.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

problem with "beware of the dog" signs is that it's effectively admittance that your dog may be dangerous, and if it does bite someone, the sign can be used as evidence against you.

train and control the dog, but don't admit you can't control it and it's dangerous with a sign.

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PostPosted: 12:22 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those dogs look quite aggressive as well so I imagine the posty would sh!t himself.
You should be able to train him to not react to people so aggressively but warning sign is a good idea at least to remove the suprise/shock for the postman.
When I was doing a paper round as a lad I had endless trouble with dogs. There was a jack russel who could shred a copy of the sunday times in under 5 seconds. Two dobermans that would leap over a gate on a driveway and cirlce me menacingly as I put the paper through the door.
The best incident was when half asleep and hungover on a sunday morning. A dog(didn't get a good look) came smashing straight through the glass bottom panel of the door and into my legs nearly knocking me over! Shocked It must have been as shocked as me because by the time I had jumped up on the driveway wall in terror, it had bolted off down the road. Scared the shit out of me that did, it certainly woke me up.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed that my dog and a couple of others seem to go mad for black trousers. Many a tiome my dog has nipped policemen, postmen, delivery men who all seem to be wearing black....could there be a reason for this?

The rest of the time he is boisterous but not a nuisance.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your ideas, some food for thought for me there.

I think it's the mailbag that sets him off.

He's not a particularly fierce dog usually, quite the opposite, and he's not very big. He just seems to have taken exception to delivery people and crash helmets.

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Hopefully with some extra training we will get him more manageable. Thing is, in a way I'm kind of pleased that he defends our property as that's sort of his job, I just need to get him to be a bit less gung-ho about it!
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 22 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi babyyam,

Please give me the postcode to your house so I can ride at least 3 miles around it whenever I'm in Warrington.

That's a scary fuckin dog.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldn't worry too much if he does bite the posty,

I believe posties are trained or at least educated on how to deal with problem hounds,

My uncle had an ex police dog that was delinquent, he bit two paper boys and a family friend (in the face almost taking her eye out) eventually the mutt was put down. but because the dog was on it's own property with a beware of the dog sign no legal action could be taken.

However to deal with the dog, how about intercepting the postie one morning, if you regularly have the same guy/girl is it worth getting them to be 'aquainted' to the dog, maybe he could pick up a dog treat by the front gate ready to great your dog?
Though caution should be aired here as if he bottles it, flinging dog treat as a defence, your dog will learn that chasing postie = food... not good.

I recently bought Roxie a 'Halti' head collar with link, She wear this on walks as shes taken to being aggressive to random people, children and dogs.

The head collar stops he reaching out and biting by closing her jaws.
Accompanied by my vocal response she's coming along nicely.

I got my headcollar for £5 off ebay compared to £10 in shops.

It will take your dog a while to adapt to the head collar, took roxie 2 weeks and she still occasionally throws a tantrum but the headcollar is yet to break despite her best efforts.

It's not a muzzle just an insurance.

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PostPosted: 13:36 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, channel 4are currently appealing for new owners and dogs for the next series of 'it's me or the dog' with victoria stilwell(sp?)
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyyam wrote:


Hopefully with some extra training we will get him more manageable. Thing is, in a way I'm kind of pleased that he defends our property as that's sort of his job, I just need to get him to be a bit less gung-ho about it!


Its better having dogs that attack when you tell them to rather than feel they are under pressure all the time, less stressful for the animal too.

Roxie respondis differently to
cats
chavs
and a general command for misc things I want her to get aggressive about ( such as when on a walk and a dodgy individual approaches me)
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
Its better having dogs that attack when you tell them to rather than feel they are under pressure all the time, less stressful for the animal too.

No, it's better just to not have an aggresive dog because as with yours "shes taken to being aggressive to random people, children and dogs". Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 24 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do want one of them postboxes Focus do em, don't go to somewhere like homebase or B+Q though as they will be much much more expensive.
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