Goverment trying to kill bikers off!

[kenny]

Does anyone one read fast bike magazine, did you see the topic about the goverment trying to ban motorcycles or restrict them to a single cyclinder 650cc automatic its not like were the ones causing problems on the road if anything the goverment should be trying to get more people to use bikes as they are far more friendly to the enviroment and other things
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[TheShaggyDA]

No, I didn't.

Probably some MP made a comment like "can't see why you need more than a 650cc bike anyway", which subsequently has been turned into "the government wants to ban motorcycles" by some tabloid reporter.

If not, got a link?
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[Sadie]

The BMF released this some weeks back.

Press release here.


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[MRX Steve]

I doubt the paper will have any affect on current laws, im sure the report will not be taken seriously due to how poorly researched it (well the bike part at least).

You always hear about similar things and none of the people saying they want things banned have done any research and know very little about the subject apart from the fact they hate it. Just last week there was some thing on radio 2 about some guy trying to bad road legal quad bikes and he was just talking out of his arse, he was confusing people who ride offroad bike illegally and fully legal road quads, didnt know any thing about the laws to make a quad legal and was saying how dangerous they were because his friends mates blind dog saw some one going round a 'blind bend at over 40mph' on a quad and how he heard some one had an accident on one on the road once and inevitably bought up ozzy osbourne. By the end of the report i just wanted to hit the guy.
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[soulbearer666]

Its all a load of crap i do not think they can do anything about while there are a few like the traffic association commisionor himself who rides so we are safe.........For now
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so the police said "it's gonna be 3 points and a ?60 fine i'm afraid"
and i replied "you're not the only one"

[stinkwheel]

Right, so they want me to ride about on a constant drive transmission, fuel injected 650cc single .

And this is going to be quieter and more fuel efficient?

So it is going to make that annoying, fluctuating 'wowing' noise you get out of a twist and go but much, much louder. It will be running it through a high friction automatic gearbox which will almost certainly require a change of transmission oil every 1,500 miles.

The only saving I can forsee is that they will go through front tyres very slowly, given how they will seldom be touching the road.

I suspect if you asked one of the big Japanese manufacturers to build a bike to that specification, you would get something resembling a giant Gilera DNA producing 60bhp.

[Itchy]

thats the point stink , they make these wheelie beasties , cops see people give them points AND a fine,

eventually banning them , subjecting them to harder and harder retests, such that nobody except me (who in cities rides like a wuss),

so eventually there will be no bikers left,
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[mchaggis]

This crock of shite has been floating around for a while.

It strikes me a bit like a 1st year engineering degree report. A little knowledge and a lot of ignorance went into that report there.

I'd expect better.
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[MAG]

Here's what the Europeans Commission said about the report.

Thanks to the BMF for highlighting what mchaggis said, "crock of shite."

It is these sort of reports if they get "sponsorship" in Europe end up as legislation unless we highlight and "fight" them.

Smith - Reducing Transport Energy Use (Motorcycle Fuel Efficiency) (E-3130/06)

10 July 2006 European Parliament Written Answers

WRITTEN QUESTION by Alyn Smith (Verts/ALE) to the Commission

Subject: Motorcycle fuel efficiency Answer(s)

The EU Working Group under the EU Joint Expert Group on Transport and Environment produced a report on the reduction of energy use in transport in January 2006. The report makes a number of suggestions with the aim of increasing technical efficiency in motorbikes, including for example limiting motorcycles to a one-cylinder engine (to harmonise air-fuel ratio) with a maximum 650 cm³ capacity, as well as automatic transmission for all motorcycles. However, this would seem to raise a number of problems.

Firstly, single-cylinder units were traditionally regarded as having economical fuel consumption but this was due to a long stroke and a heavy flywheel which had the effect of reducing their throttle response. As well as the reduction of efficiency through increased weight from heavy flywheels and large pistons, air is often trapped in a single's crank cases requiring a breather system and more energy losses.

Secondly, automatic transmission is generally less efficient than conventional gears and chain drive and remains less efficient, while poor gear selection is transient. Manual transmission is very efficient using the positive stop gear change mechanism.

Lastly, the issue in relation to fuel consumption is one of power and how that power is delivered rather than capacity, with basic 1000 cc to 1200 cc machines with relatively modest power outputs often returning better fuel consumption than highly-tuned 600 cc sports motorcycles.

Does the European Commission agree that these proposed suggestions have not been subject to the required level of technical expertise? Does the Commission intend to pursue any of the proposed suggestions outlined in this report by bringing forward new legislation? What action is the Commission taking to address the real issue of transport needs?

Answer given by Mr Piebalgs on behalf of the Commission (28.8.2006)

The Joint Expert Group on Transport and Environment is a consultative expert group, whose members are appointed by the Member States, with one expert for transport and one expert for environment for each Member State.

The Group gives advice in the form of non-binding recommendations to the Commission on topics of common interest for transport and environment policy, following the Cardiff Strategy of integration of environment and sustainable development into transport policy, as initiated by the Council in 1999.

The Joint Expert Group on Transport and Environment created in April 2005 an ad-hoc Working Group on Reduction in Energy Use in Transport. The final report of the Working Group of 18 January 2006 has been transmitted after a concluding discussion of the Joint Expert Group on 22 February 2006 to the Commission.

The content of the report was provided by the Member States experts. A disclaimer in the report states that the document should not be considered either as an official statement of the Commission or of the experts’ from Member States. The Commission has not assessed the factual correctness of the information gathered by the Member States’ experts.

The Commission has presently no plans for specific legislation with respect to energy efficiency of motorcycles.

[muddycoffee]

I always take articles like this with a large pinch of salt. I am convinced that lobby groups like BMF and alarmists like MCN bring up stuff like this to keep their profile in the news.

I am a member of the BMF and the latest magazine reveals that they are in a big financial mess. I don't know for sure and I have no evidence, but I speculate that this kind of scare story would be ideal to increase interest and membership in the BMF.

No government is going to restict motorcycle engine size while some people are driving around in 3, 4 and 5 litre cars.
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