Well said Jack Straw!

[Mister James]

It's about time a politician had the balls to at least open a debate on topics like this. I'm even more pleased it was Straw, who has a large muslim constituency and is one of the few Labour politicians I've ever had a grudging respect for.

[zaknafien]

Watch it become a protected legal right for muslim women to never remove them.
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[Mister James]

[owdamer]

Well done to Jack Straw for saying what everyone else thinks. But just watch how more common the veils become now. What is it with Muslims and critisism?? They dont like it do they.

[Mister James]

[ISLAND GIRL]

I applaud Jack Straw, all I have heard today is about this issue. It appears that these days the muslims will complain about anything now, they are takin over the UK, lets face it, we all know that they are aiming to run the it, soon it will be us that are the minority, a scary thought but true Why cant everyone just get along in the world, all these wars going on is down to politics and religion.
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[Mister James]

Having seen a few news articles on the box about this since getting home, it's telling (and extremely predictable) to note that the vast majority of Muslims interviewed seem keen to ignore his actual words (ie. that he explains his views and ASKS women how have specifically come to speak to him to remove their veils) and choose instead to believe that he is demanding that all Muslim women dance around the street naked for the amusement of the infidels.
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>Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
>Bazza Wow. Eyes like a shithouse rat, you...

[colin1]

i think jacks a tit, no idea what he thinks he is gonna achieve by this, other than pissing a few people off

his argument is he needs to see someones face to be able to talk to them

this is crap as he talks to ppl on the phone all the time and copes just fine

so what if people want to cover their face?

wdnt bother me
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[Mister James]

Did you actually read all of the stories I posted, including the original article where he explains his thinking?

Regardless of whether you did or not, Straw is entitled to his opinion, entitled to voice it, and even one of the usually reactionary muslim groups says that it is reasonable to suggest that face-masks can be unsettling.

A lot of communication IS non-verbal - indeed many IPS 'experts' suggest that the majority is - and of that I'd bet a fairly substantial part is made up of assessing facial expressions. Anyone who hides those - for whatever reason - is denying their conversational partner the ability to really understand what they are saying, whether they mean it, and how strongly they feel about it.

It's also considered fucking rude in my culture - as evidenced by the many people on here who argue that we should remove our bash-hats when paying for petrol.
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>Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
>Bazza Wow. Eyes like a shithouse rat, you...

[colin1]

yeah exactly, no way im removing my helmet to pay for petrol or to speak to jack straw

if he thinks im rude, tough
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[Mister James]

It's not like he is asking them to walk around like this all the time - he is ASKING that they show their face when THEY come to seek his assistance, in a controlled enviroment, some with their husband there, and all with a female member of staff as a chaperone.
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>Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
>Bazza Wow. Eyes like a shithouse rat, you...

[colin1]

from what i heard, they all comply with his wishes, once he asks nicely so i cant see why he is still moaning
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[Mister James]

[Harold_Shand]

Is it possible Jack Straw is having a quick populist moment while he gears up for the leadership challenge?

The left will talk the talk on racial matters but will shit it when it comes down to the crunch. This is because they couldn't give a fuck about us or our country, but they will try to get in again by using the problem they created as a vote getter. Labour are scum, they've fucked the country up to a point where there are riots, no-go areas for whites, a justice system which is a joke, no room in prisons and an impotent police force.

If you are traditionally a right winger at heart, don't be hoodwinked by labour lies. They are full of shit and will say anything to stay in power. Don't believe the hype and certaintly don't vote the cunts in again.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[Mister James]

[colin1]

[zaknafien]

[Mister James]

[zaknafien]

Gordon brown for PM? Not a fucking chance.
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[Harold_Shand]

Old Labour will get Reid in, then the trade unions will pull the strings and then that will be the end of Labour for another 20 years.

Radical politics are coming soon, I think.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[hellkat]

[Harold_Shand]

Let the dogs out
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[hellkat]

I love the smell of Molotov Cocktails at midnight.

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[ISLAND GIRL]

[karen_moomin]

I completely agree with Jack Straw

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago (slightly different angle), that when bikers buy petrol, they are expected to take their lid off when they pay. When I was going through China passport control the other week, I was asked to move my hand from my face so they could see me clearly.

I think the world is going PC mad if people take offence at Jack Straw's comments. He is just being practical.