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PostPosted: 18:58 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Top 3 helmet makes? Reply with quote

Which would you say are the top 3 makes in order?
I say:
Shoei
Arai
AGV
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the point?
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the point of most of this forum? No point at all. I want opinions...Any problem?
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:29 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny thing is it looks like your list was researched by "What that man on the internet said was best" anyway.

Again, what's the point when most people will just list the tartiest/most expensive brands made?
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think the post is useless, why do you bump it with more useless crap. Shut your faces and let it pass away if you don't like it.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharks seem to be quite decent at the minute, if your head fits them.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon Shark is the best because thats what I have Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
If you think the post is useless, why do you bump it with more useless crap. Shut your faces and let it pass away if you don't like it.


Or, better yet, don't post pointless crap and you won't be told not to be such a fapping little knobgoblin.

Every month or so there are "Which is the best helmet" threads. There has never been a "best helmet". Ever.

And in anticipation of your next thread there is no "best bike" either. There is the 98 R1, and there is the rest.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best helmet is the one that fits you the best.

After that, quality may come into it a bit, but this can be variable within one make between models and years a model was made, etc.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So a 30 quid plastic helmet is the best. If it is the one that best fits you? I think not. I think there is a reason why there are 500 quid helmets.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:32 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
So a 30 quid plastic helmet is the best. If it is the one that best fits you? I think not. I think there is a reason why there are 500 quid helmets.

Better sound proofing and ventilation, as well as being fashionable (e.g., replicas). In a crash, I'd still rather wear a perfect fitting £30 helmet than a £500 one which doesn't fit.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had 500 quid, I wouldn't spend it on a helmet, but I would never buy a plastic one. Im just saying that there is obviously a difference. Does a 500 pound(?) Kymco scooter have the same quality as a 1500(?) pound Yamaha? I bet not, but Kymco is cheaper. Who cares, as long as its comfy its right! right?

Another question: Clip or dual ring strap?
I say the strap.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it entertaining when people try to prove me wrong. Sometimes they do, and I chill. But now it aint gon happen Mr. Green
I highly doubt anyone's head is only a perfect fit for only one helmet, and that one happening to be a 30 quid one.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea

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PostPosted: 22:52 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
So a 30 quid plastic helmet is the best. If it is the one that best fits you? I think not. I think there is a reason why there are 500 quid helmets.

Yes, if it is appropriately certified.

A £500 helmet that doesn't fit will do more damage than a £30 that does fit.

I've crashed in helmets that do and don't fit and am very confident that fit is more important than price.

A badly fitting helmet can cause your head to 'vibrate' inside, giving a bad concussion.

It is quite hard to 'judge' how good a helmet is, they should all meet EEC standards etc, but there's no quarentee that a £500 will do anything more than it needs over that.

You'd think you get better quality in other bits if you pay more, but a top of the range Arai I had didn't wasn't great, with quite a few of the vents falling off.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm,

Interesting dicussion. However ECE regs are not nearly as good as old BS type A or american snell standard.

ECE test helmets in a number of places and measures deceleration but only hit the helmet once in the same place.

Snell to 2 drops on each point. Arai do a lot more drops at the same points and far exceeds current regs. They feel that often you have multible impacts in a crash so its important the lid keeps protecting your head.

Point being there are some very cheap chinese lids coming over from the far east that will just pass the ECE regs but only just, and some good quality lids that will way exceed ece regs.

Another interesting point raised in last weeks MCN and superbike magazine is ACU Gold stickers. Its an absoulute discrace. Most lids are not even tested by the ACU. If they meet ECE standards and the manufacture want to get ACU gold stickers they buy them for a few quid each.

MCN pretended to be an importer of some cheap chinese lids, made up a fake name for the lids applied to ACU and ordered 3000 stickers to be received to the bike show. All they did was send a photo of the lid. No tests.

So ACU gold sticker at the moment means naf all. Its just marketing. The head of ACU did coment that they are working at doing something like the Ncap car safety ratings where lids get a rating for safety. Now that sounds like a great idea and will encourage manufactures to make safer lids.

My advice for what its worth is as others say, get a lid that fits proberly and stick with a reputable make-eg HJC, Nolan, X-Lite, Nitro, Shark, Roof, Shoei, Arai etc.

Sorry for long possibly borring post.

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PostPosted: 09:59 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something which I find very important and which definately DOES vary between brands is the noise insulation.

Saves you wearing those ever-so painful earplugs on those 1000mile days.

Anyone with me?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like sharks because they are sooo comfy if they fit ur head Smile and mine is awsome Smile...agv are also good Smile
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:28 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my HJC, very good quality (very well rated in RiDE tests, up there with arai and shoei) and only 120 quid. Bargain.

My girlfriend got a shark s800 butterfly not long ago. Very cute paint scheme for a girl and I'm impressed with the quality, has cool vents with big buttons (easy to open when wearing gloves) and the lining is very comfy.

Other than that, I like agv lids because they fit me nice and I tend to like the styles.
I love some of the latest shoei paint schemes but havent even tried em on because I wouldnt pay the prices, I ride everyday and my lid inevitably gets scratched and abused.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlo wrote:
Snell to 2 drops on each point. Arai do a lot more drops at the same points and far exceeds current regs. They feel that often you have multible impacts in a crash so its important the lid keeps protecting your head.


The Snell test is too harsh in reality, making the helmet firmer than it needs to be, to survive the damage from a double impact in the same location.

In real world accidents, the incidence of an impact from the same sized object in the same location, with the same force is so unlikely it can be discounted. As a result, the Snell test requires the internal foam of the lid to decompress less, given the thickness avaialble to it, to account for the infinitesimally small chance that you will hit the same object again, in the same bit of the helmet. this means the head is subjected to a greater G-force than is actually required, and doesn't actually Help.

By utlising the full thickness of the foam, Non snell conforming lids (but which meet all other standards) subject the head to lower g-forces, and as such, are actually 'safer'

more info here:
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/

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Dr. Jim Newman, an actual rocket scientist and highly respected head-impact expert—he was once a Snell Foundation director—puts it this way: "If you want to create a realistic helmet standard, you don't go bashing helmets onto hemispherical steel balls. And you certainly don't do it twice.


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PostPosted: 11:07 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's quite interesting.

It made me ponder whether helmets for bike use and car use should actually be designed differently - as you fly over the handlebars and tumble along the ground there's a very small chance you hit the same bit of your lid repeatedly in the same place (real impact, not just scuffing along the ground).

But if you're tightly harnessed into a racing car, I'm thinking there's a reasonable chance that you dunt your head repeatedly off the same bit of roll cage as you perform a quadruple barrel roll into the kitty litter.

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