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Scouse
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: OMG! How many!? Reply with quote
Don't know if anyone saw it but according to the news there were 1,500 immigrants coming into the country everyday last year! Shocked Britains population went up by 185,000 people! And thats the ones they know about, where do they put all the bastards!? It no wonder there are so many problems with homelessness and lack of jobs etc. Thats not right surely, shouldn't we sort our own problems with ourselves before we worry about other countries and fuck things up big time?


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I dont have any solid evidence to this, but I was told by my geography teacher (who knows a lot about this kinda thing) that more people leave britain everyday than those who enter it.

I guess they dont report that as much on the news as its not as interesting really, then we dont have anyone to blame for all the problems we have.

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Somehow I don't believe that more than 1,500 brits move abroad every day! Confused
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
1,500 came to Uk - 1000 a day left. Seems alot, but I cant understand. I beleive most that left were UK peeps.
If I had the money, I'd be gone.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
380,000 left the country.

And 198,000 Britons left as well.

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2434103,00.html
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Louise wrote:
1,500 came to Uk - 1000 a day left. Seems alot, but I cant understand. I beleive most that left were UK peeps.
If I had the money, I'd be gone.


Still its 500 too many coming in..
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
bloody muslims Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Still its 500 too many coming in..


Oh yeah I agree fully. Thats why I'm really starting to hate living here.
People like me, Work a half decent job to earn some dosh when others come here and scrounge. Pisses me right off. Oh and the fact that there are no jobs going as they get them Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
also bear in mind that the natural population growth is actually negative.

To sustain a population at a static level, every couple needs to have an average of 2.4 children. the current UK average is well below 2.

Couple this natural population decline with the increase in people emigrating, and you've got a country that would eventually be empty if it weren't for people coming in.

so which would you like? a country with more pensioners than workers, and the workers would have to support them thru increased taxation etc; or a country that identifies it's need to maintain a reasonably static population, and employ those from other countries for the (on average) more menial tasks.

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PostPosted: 10:53 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If the scum running this country hadn't turned it into an under-paid and over-taxed hellhole there wouldn't be anywhere near so many native brits leaving and we wouldn't have a problem.


there's a bigger drop in the UK population from a dropping birth-rate than there is from people leaving.

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PostPosted: 19:47 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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and whatever was left of it's native culture.


We had a native culture? What was that then?

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How many you ask?!? .... Far to many. Evil or Very Mad Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zen Dog wrote:
Siggi wrote:
and whatever was left of it's native culture.


We had a native culture? What was that then?

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A very good point sir Wink
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 03 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Still its 500 too many coming in..


Oh yeah I agree fully. Thats why I'm really starting to hate living here.
People like me, Work a half decent job to earn some dosh when others come here and scrounge. Pisses me right off. Oh and the fact that there are no jobs going as they get them Thumbs Down

Don't forget that the number of immigrants also include those with high academic qualifications and extensive, and sometimes very specific, work experience.

And, the number of people leaving also includes those foreigners who go back home after a couple of years here.

As for the 'bloody muslims' jibe, I have in my working life had dozens of Antipodean colleagues, none of whom have paid taxes from their very high earnings. Nobody seems interested in closing this loophole.

In my field, most of my colleagues are foreigners, as the knowledge of two or three languages (on top of English) is advantageous, as is broad general knowledge. The Brits, instead of whinging about foreigners coming here to steal their jobs, should think about how they can improve their own desirability to employers.
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At the same time all this is going on New Zealand are desperately trying to recruit Brits and non-orientals into their country due to the economic decline of young people! That's why it is now possible for under 46 year olds to get a two year working visa in NZ...it used to be 34.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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instead of whinging about foreigners coming here to steal their jobs, should think about how they can improve their own desirability to employers.


What's the point if the foreign cunts are willing to do the same hours for less money?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Scouse wrote:
Paivi wrote:
instead of whinging about foreigners coming here to steal their jobs, should think about how they can improve their own desirability to employers.


What's the point if the foreign cunts are willing to do the same hours for less money?


This isn't quite true. The people coming in are either skilled labour where there is a shortage here, or unskilled labour (fruit pickers etc) where people here are too fucking grand to do it, and thus there is a shortage. There may be a small crossover, but so what?, british nationals have been finding high wages abroad for years.
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Just to add a point here also. My girlfriend and mother of my son is an immigrant. We met on holiday and ended up together. She moved over here from Sweden, and got a job here. Now I'm wondering how many people here think she shouldn't have been allowed to do that?

It would be a very sad world if that was the case.
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Siggi wrote:

My mother's Icelandic (doesn't walk around in a horned helmet and demand cafes serve her dried cod) and my wife is Japanese (doesn't walk around in a Kimono and expect restaurants to have Sushi on tap). They both speak english too, and don't practice sub-human medievil religions.

It's about culture and integration, not race or nationality.

That's pretty cool.

Now would it be wrong if your wife was a chef, and opened a Sushi bar? (I love sushi)

You see in my mind that would be cool. That for me is proper multiculturism. I agree on the english thing as I've said before, but there is nothing wrong with spreading a bit of what you know and like.
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froggeh wrote:

That's pretty cool.

Now would it be wrong if your wife was a chef, and opened a Sushi bar? (I love sushi)

You see in my mind that would be cool. That for me is proper multiculturism. I agree on the english thing as I've said before, but there is nothing wrong with spreading a bit of what you know and like.


We travel the world to experience different cultures, we don't need it force-fed on us in our own country.
What's the point of every country being the same under the guise of "multiculurism"? There'd be no point or pleasure in visiting anywhere.
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Siggi wrote:

It would be if she opened it in a 'Japan Town', with the intention of it being for the use of a predominantly Japanese clientele.


You see now you're picking nits...
There would be nothing wrong with a "Japan town" - I love China town in Manchester.
And if it's mostly Japanese that use it, so long as that's just by choice then what the hell, I'd go...
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Didge wrote:
froggeh wrote:

That's pretty cool.

Now would it be wrong if your wife was a chef, and opened a Sushi bar? (I love sushi)

You see in my mind that would be cool. That for me is proper multiculturism. I agree on the english thing as I've said before, but there is nothing wrong with spreading a bit of what you know and like.


We travel the world to experience different cultures, we don't need it force-fed on us in our own country.
What's the point of every country being the same under the guise of "multiculurism"? There'd be no point or pleasure in visiting anywhere.


So let me get this right. Are you sayiing I should go to Japan if I fancy Sushi? Or India if I want a curry? Or China, Thailand, etc for all the foods that I love being able to get on my doorstep?

Seriously I hope not.
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froggeh wrote:


So let me get this right. Are you sayiing I should go to Japan if I fancy Sushi? Or India if I want a curry? Or China, Thailand, etc for all the foods that I love being able to get on my doorstep?

Seriously I hope not.


Is that what they mean by 'diversity', and 'enrichning'? So we can go out for a curry or Chinese?
Pray tell me what other 'benefits' I have gained through this & past Governments immigration policies?
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Didge wrote:
froggeh wrote:


So let me get this right. Are you sayiing I should go to Japan if I fancy Sushi? Or India if I want a curry? Or China, Thailand, etc for all the foods that I love being able to get on my doorstep?

Seriously I hope not.


Is that what they mean by 'diversity', and 'enrichning'? So we can go out for a curry or Chinese?
Pray tell me what other 'benefits' I have gained through this & past Governments immigration policies?


You didnt answer the question?
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Siggi wrote:

That's not a nit, that's the whole meat of the issue right there. Yes, there would be something wrong with a 'Japan Town', because it'd be a rotten ghetto full of isolationist have-it-both-ways piss-takers and Japanese mafia. And if you think any China Town in the UK is even remotely like China you're kidding yourself. They're bastard hybrids with the worst of both and the best of neither. Scum holes with a ritzy glitzy surface that hide anarchy and subverted society. Same goes for 'Bangla Towns' or 'Mini Calcutta'. Or whatever the other sub-continental shit-house ghettoes are called.

This is britain, and I don't want there to be any parts of it where I have to feel like a fucking alien. China Town? I wouldn't go near the shit-hole, any of them.


And thats your choice. And I do understand that there can be shit going on, but that's the problem, not the fact that there is a china town...

Britain is as near as we get in the world a 'free' country (I know - lets not go off on a tangent) , and for me personally I like a China town or whatever... Would you rid me of that choice?
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