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| gavin |
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 gavin World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 00:03 - 07 Nov 2006 Post subject: chain lube slows you down..... |
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ive tried just about everything, but dont really like any of them, they all seem to fling initially and then stick fast to the chain, and everything else. and then all kinds of crap sticks to the chain.
ive come to the conclusion that cleaning all the goo from various lubes and waxes of the bike is more costly in time and money than just giving it a light oiling once a week, so i tried it yesterday when i cleaned the bike, cleaned all the grit filled goo off the chain and oiled it on the paddock stand, wiping off the excess with a clean rag. nice clean looking chain, no mess on the bike.
rode into work today, and bugger me if it wasnt faster and smoother as well. now i know a well lubed chain is worth a couple of bhp on the dyno, and they say you cant feel a difference of less than 5bhp with the seat of your pants, but this was more than that, it was picking the front wheel up all the time, when it wasnt before, it was noticably quicker.
so...is oiling the way to go, or is there a good lube out there that dosent attract all the grit and coat the bike in crud? or slow the bike down! any opinions?
p.s. i dont want a scottoiler! |
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Before I got my shaftie, I had always had chain drive bikes. I always used to lube the chain just after a ride, while the chain was still warm. That way it would run into the chain better than applying to a cold chain and you wont get as much fling off.
But I still don't understand why you don't want a Scottoiler? That is by far the best solution. No manual lubing, fewer chain ajustments and easy to fill up, works out cheaper too...almost like having a shaft drive.  ____________________ Andy Sez....
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Any particular reason you don't want a Scottoiler? They really do make your life much easier.. by using an automatically regulated flow of light oil on the chain, the 'oiler helps keep the chain cleaner as well as lubricated.
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Scottoilers definitely do rock.
I have one on my Africa Twin with a tube running off to a big bottle under the seat acting as the resevoir. The bottle needs refilling with old engine oil every 2,000 miles and the chain adjusting every 4,000 miles or so - and that's it, even with harsh offroad abuse in sandy conditions. Brilliant...  ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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 gavin World Chat Champion

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| feef wrote: | Any particular reason you don't want a Scottoiler? |
honestly? just vanity, i dont want all that clobber on my bike!
but more importantly, most of the bikes i see running scottoilers in london are grubby as hell - i dont like the psychology of "fit and forget" maintenence, i think its a false economy.....while you're not checking the chain weekly, what else is going awry? - id rather spend an hour at the weekend cleaning the bike and checking and lubing things myself, for the peace of mind.
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But is the 5hp (say) gain from a well lubed chain 5hp at peak power, or at lower revs. For example if it gave you 5hp at 30mph in top gear then that is probably a 20% power gain.
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what ive seen is a fairly constant improvement, a uniform increase right across the range. simple things can give amazing results, try a dyno run on your bike, then lever back the rear pads and slacken the rear axle off, tightening it back up till the wheel stops spinning freely, then back it off 1/4 turn ( probably 1/2-3/4 recommended torque figure ) and see how much power you get!
a couple of years back at the Performance Bikes 250 shootout at Bruntingthorpe my rgv was sick- dead battery and p/v's not working, i did all of this and posted the best stock terminal and 1/4 mile times, beating half the race bikes as well!  |
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 THCi Nearly there...

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Mine aint that neat-been meaning to sort it out for ages, but aint started to get the effort required yet...
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Old Thread Alert!
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