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Biker_Dene
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: no electrode plugs Reply with quote

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any 1 used these plugs? i dont see how they can be that good with no electrode wouldnt it just ruin your engine?

is it worth getting these for my next service or normal plugs?
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw these the other day, how the hell would you set the gap? shurely some bikes wont produce enough power for the spark to jump that much space?
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be honest, if you service it reguarly, just stick with standard ngks, or if you leave it that bit longer, go for the ngk irridium. They last longer and give a small power advantage.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldy wrote:
to be honest, if you service it reguarly, just stick with standard ngks, or if you leave it that bit longer, go for the ngk irridium. They last longer """and give a small power advantage."""


your gonna get stoned for saying that... Smile
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do get some power gains with a fiddle with jetting as it allows for a leaner mix without melting things.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant see them making any odds
they might be able to run hotter
but you could just buy a hotter grade of normal plug for less money


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PostPosted: 23:43 - 04 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they gave you +10horsepower as the advert says, then they would be fitted as standard rather than re-designing the engine and making new tooling for a lighter crank, nutless rods etc.

Gimmick, save your money.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Ebay 'The almost 20 years old worldwide famous BRISK tuning firm developed expressively for RACING purposes its plugs.'

From Brisk 'Brisk celebrates 70 years of spark plug production tradition.'
Confused

A number of peformance sports car manufacturers use Brisk plugs. Some independent testing gives about 3 BHP increase over standard NGK, but thats on 150+ bhp cars with the most expensive racing plug so its unlikely to give 10bhp on a standard bike.

Not easy to get in the UK and they retail at about £15 each for the cheaper ones.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
You do get some power gains with a fiddle with jetting as it allows for a leaner mix without melting things.


So instead of the plug electrode melting to warn you that you have messed the jettin up you get a holed piston instead. Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
You do get some power gains with a fiddle with jetting as it allows for a leaner mix without melting things.


Form what I've seen using an A/F ratio in the 13's gives better power under load than the 14.7:1 stoicometric mixture. Also makes for better cooling of the piston crown.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The images suggest that you get a load of seperate sparks from these plags. Reality is you will only get one (the spark will just be created where it is easiest).

Seen a few odd plugs in the past. Suspect with how shrouded the electrodes are on that one they would get fouled quite easily.

Friend tried an Autolite kart racing plug in my old MBX125. Worked VERY well at high revs (the derestricted MBX would normally rev to 9500, with this plug it would go usefully to 10500), but fouled up badly around town (also the cdi unit died after using it for a couple of weeks........).

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PostPosted: 12:25 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
bish777 wrote:
You do get some power gains with a fiddle with jetting as it allows for a leaner mix without melting things.


Form what I've seen using an A/F ratio in the 13's gives better power under load than the 14.7:1 stoicometric mixture. Also makes for better cooling of the piston crown.


A rich A/F ratio (e.g. 13) is what people tend to use for racecars. There it's a question of trying to burn as much fuel as possible (in quantity - more fuel burnt = more power) and cleanliness be damned. Smile

Most normal engines are set up running lean to ensure that as much as possible of the fuel in the charge is burnt, to minimise the amount of unburnt HC's thrown out the back. As far as I can remember also, a Catalytic converter works best when running lean too. Throw a load of unburnt petrol at that and it will commit hari-kari pretty quickly.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A spark is a spark. On a standard engine the only way you'll gain any more power from a plug is if your old one was knackered. Same goes for splitfire, precious metal ones and all the other gimmicks.

The only use can see for those is possibly an alternative to a retracted nose "normal" plug when running big doses of nitrous.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

+10 hp !!!

i need one for my ped lmao!!
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:
A spark is a spark. On a standard engine the only way you'll gain any more power from a plug is if your old one was knackered. Same goes for splitfire, precious metal ones and all the other gimmicks.

The only use can see for those is possibly an alternative to a retracted nose "normal" plug when running big doses of nitrous.


The nitrous racers call sparkplugs "the nitrous fuse", because if you push it too far it melts the earth strap and puts the spark out instead of blowing the head gasket/detting the pistons.

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PostPosted: 20:33 - 05 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some irridium plugs for my er5, it did give it a power boost of around 3mph, but i didn't know how long the rusty old things were in there. Plus i like the way the electrode is shaped, and they come in a better box. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 07 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you get cooler running from a leaner mixture with iridiums, good for economy and emissions i believe.
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