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nottspolice |
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 14:51 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: |
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Sounds like the police being a bunch of killjoy spoilsport safety nazis to me.
Can't do a bloody thing in this country without someone wanting to spoil it.
Oh no, someone is riding a motorbike on a piece of totally unused and useless waste ground which is nowhere near anything else. Exactly how is that antisocial?
And you need to decide if it's a public footpath or private land nobody is allowed on numbnuts. You can't have it both ways.
I take exception to the police intruding on a website which I use for my personal entertainment to threaten my peers with poorly justified and dubiously legal (three words: Bill Of Rights) enforcement action for taking part in their hobby.
As such, I am responding with a totally arbitrary karma raping, which in a similar way to a section 59, you can do fuck all about.
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Dom World Chat Champion
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Posted: 15:23 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: |
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If even the local council and police are convinced it's a good site for a 'properly managed' off roading then it's clearly an excellent and remote location where people are only risking their own health (which, you may not be aware of this, they are quite welcome to do).
The section that makes threats about charging people for taking work vehicles without consent is the slimiest piece of fear mongering I've read in a long time.
Even the Daily Mail would be impressed with the use of bold text.
As Stinkwheel states, this is a website where most people come to get away from exactly the kind of crap that you have just posted. Persevere and I can only imagine you will further propagate anti-police sentiments. ____________________ Photos and that |
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colin1 Captain Safety
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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MarJay But it's British!
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Posted: 16:00 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: Re: For anyone contemplating visiting the desert nr mansfiel |
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Now you're here, you can answer some questions for me:
How come many members of this forum have suffered motorcycle theft, informed the police and never received a visit from any member of staff employed by the police in their area? Not even a civilian?
How come motorcyclists who *try* to find a legitimate place to use their legally held taxed and insured motorcycles get hounded off the land?
Only a few weeks ago some friends and I were told to leave a "Byway open to all traffic" despite each riding legal motorcycles with tax insurance and no modifications because 'someone complained'?
A motorcyclist complains of a theft of property from their own home, and they get ignored. A member of the public complains about a motorcyclist legally using a public byway and the police arrive?
If you want to know why hardly anyone in the UK has respect for the police services in the UK, you don't have to look very far to find out!
Its the same with speeding. Speed does not kill, and yet the amount of poor driving I see on a daily basis beggars belief. I understand that the police have a difficult job with all of the government appointed 'targets' for arrests etc, but surely it only takes common sense to realise arresting one thief is much more productive than warning ten motorcyclists, or cautioning ten people for posession of small amounts of cannabis? Or Enforcing another myopic ban on the sale of a specific object which could be regarded as dangerous?
The police are widely seen as arrogant, obsessed with minor offenses, officious and out of touch with the average member of the public. This wasn't the case when I was a child, and I have to ask... What changed? ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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thegubner World Chat Champion
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Posted: 17:57 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: Re: For anyone contemplating visiting the desert nr mansfiel |
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You fucking cheeky cunt.
How many nonces you nicked this week?
Whats that none? How many missing children you found this week?
None again?
I reckon my guesses are right.
How many forums you spammed with your shitty "do as you're told" attitude?
Loads?
Fuck off you half wit. You even got a bike? Or just the panda your "partner and alsho your lover" humps your bottom in. |
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MarJay But it's British!
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tatters Exxon Valdez
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Posted: 18:17 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: Re: For anyone contemplating visiting the desert nr mansfiel |
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Nazi Scum ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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ghettostan Nitrous Nuisance
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Posted: 18:32 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: |
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dont worry off roaders, when i hit the jackpot i will buy the land
iv got it all planed out, the place will be open from friday to sunday 8am till 10pm, floodlights will be provided and lit up.
charge everyone £2.50 each bike for the day on a first come first serve basis this includes car park.
the only thing is
there will be no alcohol/drugs allowed in the site
i am not resposible for any injuries, lost property.
thats if i hit the jackpot lol |
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ghettostan Nitrous Nuisance
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Come on Admin remove them from site ____________________ CRF230 all you need |
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benjami Nearly there...
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Posted: 18:37 - 21 Apr 2008 Post subject: |
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One good point.
For a noob and a cunt, at least his first post was in the correct section |
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JBurrows88 World Chat Champion
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Anyone ring em up or email em?
____________________ Dave
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garyd Brolly Dolly
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Posted: 15:45 - 23 Apr 2008 Post subject: |
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Yeah i e-mailed them ,had no reply,i asked for them to be removed as there not really forum members just looking to use a site as a free propaganda shot ,but...................most of what they say is true,IF you ride a LEGAL off road bike there is no need to go to this Desert where all the kids/tossers/chavs go ,you will have NO claim on anyone that injures you, wrecks your bike ,the loonies go round anyway they want with little kids of 6/7 having no clue,some stolen cars also used there then burnt out ,its an accident waiting to happen,its mainly sand/clag heaps which wreck chains/bearings,if your NOT legal go to a track,if you are use LEGAL BYWAYS,this is encouraging scroats on pitbikes to screw up our LEGAL hobby,these are my own views and i am not related or even know any "busies"just dont shit on your/our own doorstep ____________________ CRF230 all you need |
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MarJay But it's British!
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garyd wrote: | Yeah i e-mailed them ,had no reply,i asked for them to be removed as there not really forum members just looking to use a site as a free propaganda shot ,but...................most of what they say is true,IF you ride a LEGAL off road bike there is no need to go to this Desert where all the kids/tossers/chavs go ,you will have NO claim on anyone that injures you, wrecks your bike ,the loonies go round anyway they want with little kids of 6/7 having no clue,some stolen cars also used there then burnt out ,its an accident waiting to happen,its mainly sand/clag heaps which wreck chains/bearings,if your NOT legal go to a track,if you are use LEGAL BYWAYS,this is encouraging scroats on pitbikes to screw up our LEGAL hobby,these are my own views and i am not related or even know any "busies"just dont shit on your/our own doorstep |
Comma comma comma!
But, the point is not everyone can legally ride a bike on the road. Where are the facilities which stop the little scrotes from nicking your pride and joy and taking it out across some fields?
We need areas of land which are not governed by road traffic rules in order that kids (and, indeed some adults) have a safe area to mess about with motorcycles. If we had more such areas, I'm certain that we'd have less problem with illegally ridden pitbikes, off roader theft, and field bikes.
I think it is actually very responsible of people to try to find areas which aren't byways, which aren't going to be near enough to people to upset them, which aren't public parks etc.
This 'Desert' place actually sounds like a very responsible place to ride. And Who gives a shit about public liability? if you have an area for bikes and an area for pedestrians and cyclists then you use the bike area at your own risk. None of this namby pamby poncing about with public liability insurance "Where there's blame there's a claim" nonsense.
Of course stolen cars etc would be bad, but thats bad anywhere. If people can safely use the area with legally owned machines, and it isn't upsetting the residents then I'm all for it. The corporation that owns the site is just thinking of the money. If they allowed its use at the weekends, then they would be benefitting the community as a whole. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Marjay,there are already places for non legal riders,as i already pointed out ...........a closed TRACK ,you roll up ,pays yer money and ride,the Desert isnt a responsible place to ride as its PRIVATE,how you feel if i donuted on your front lawn ____________________ CRF230 all you need |
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A suitable off road site that is approved by the council would need to meet health and safety requirements. As a result it would need amongst other things, adequate public liability insurance and marshalling. These two considerations alone would mean that a legal site would incur running costs, aside from the substantial investment to prepare for the site for this use i.e. access roads, changing facilities, offices etc. As a result, there would have to be a fee for people to ride on the site and there would have to be site rules that would have to be enforced by the marshalls. It appears that the principal attraction of “The Desert” site, to the majority of its users, is that it is free and unrestricted. Therefore it would not be seen to be a viable prospect for an investor to set up a legal site and invest large sums of money, as long as a large unrestricted area is available for free use right next door. In short, we need to eliminate the illegal use of “The Desert”, to make a professional site viable for an investor. The local Newark and Sherwood parish council is looking to earmark part of this land for this very use, should the illegal use be stopped. The people who want a legal site, but continue to ride illegally on “The Desert” are themselves preventing the very thing that they want. |
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I'd say around 90% of the people on here have no idea what or where 'The Desert' is, including me before you spammed this site.
People will continue to use it until access to it is no longer possible, and then, they will find somewhere else, you know that as well as everyone else.
Your time on here is a complete waste of my (everyones) money, and the police wander why their popularity has gone drastically down over the years.
I suggest you stop posting on here, you are just winding eveyone up. ____________________ ZXR750R (M2) - For the road.
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JBurrows88 World Chat Champion
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Fair enough. Most of us see your point. SOME MX riders give; law abiding trail riders a bad name/image.
However don't you think adding /yourself/ to a chat room is not really the best way to stop illegal use of "The Desert"?
In fact it just angers a large majority of people. Have you heard of something called a press release? MCN are always willing to /chat/.
Hope you filled out all the paperwork relating to this post! ____________________ Dave
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nottspolice wrote: | A suitable off road site that is approved by the council would need to meet health and safety requirements. As a result it would need amongst other things, adequate public liability insurance and marshalling. These two considerations alone would mean that a legal site would incur running costs, aside from the substantial investment to prepare for the site for this use i.e. access roads, changing facilities, offices etc. As a result, there would have to be a fee for people to ride on the site and there would have to be site rules that would have to be enforced by the marshalls. It appears that the principal attraction of “The Desert” site, to the majority of its users, is that it is free and unrestricted. Therefore it would not be seen to be a viable prospect for an investor to set up a legal site and invest large sums of money, as long as a large unrestricted area is available for free use right next door. In short, we need to eliminate the illegal use of “The Desert”, to make a professional site viable for an investor. The local Newark and Sherwood parish council is looking to earmark part of this land for this very use, should the illegal use be stopped. The people who want a legal site, but continue to ride illegally on “The Desert” are themselves preventing the very thing that they want. |
So the police have become the enforcers of the will of commercial organisations then? So the police are little more than private security for big companies and the rich!
To respond to garyd, I would be upset if you did a donut on my lawn but I could either come and tell you you are trespassing, or I could build effective fencing to prevent you from getting there.
however If I owned acres and acres of land which is not being used at the weekend, then I probably wouldn't care what you did as long as I wasn't liable for any injury or accident.
Whereas, if they have marshaling and public liability insurance, then they *are* liable.
If I claimed to not be aware of the use of the land, then I wouldn't be liable. However if I wanted to make money from it, then I'd call the police...
Why aren't nottspolice out catching rapists and murderers! ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 45 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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