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hornetmike
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: gold fren brake pads Reply with quote

Any got any views on gold fren brake pads, they are cheap on ebay and just wondering of they are any good.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Re: gold fren brake pads Reply with quote

miketovey wrote:
they are cheap on ebay.


In my own opinion, that tells me everything I need to know. I never skimp on brakes or tyres.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gold fren are not cheap as you will be buying another set a few days later assuming you managed to stop and didn't kill yourself.


]trust me they are rubbish[
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch out ebay is FULL of fake knock off brake pads , I got a set and they disintegrated within a few 100 miles.

If you want to try them cheaply try Wemoto they do Goldfren pads which are geniune.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering exactly the same thing a couple of weeks ago when fitting my new bluespot calipers. Couldn't find much in the way of a sensible answer on the net; loads of pious types banging on about never trying to save money on safety items like brakes and tyres and opinions from those who'd never tried them.
Had a look on the Gold Fren website which seemed pretty convincing, but, much as I love cheapness, in the end I went EBC.
Would be very interested to see if this thread throws up anything new.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1016.5 wrote:
in the end I went EBC.
Would be very interested to see if this thread throws up anything new.


My other thread

says that EBC aint great either

https://bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=168944
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've always used them and have no complaints, they last pretty well and stop me when i want to stop, good enough for me Thumbs Up

saying that, i probably wouldnt use them on a track though
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gold frens on my S3, cant complain about em, plenty of stopping power.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no problem with them. Its not like they are real budget items, they are only £2-3 cheaper than EBC.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

but what about the wear on the not so cheap discs?
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had 3 sets on the nsr and the disc was still like new when i sold it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use them...

they stop me.

job done


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PostPosted: 19:23 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegbrains wrote:
In my own opinion, that tells me everything I need to know. I never skimp on brakes or tyres.


So you always pay full retail price on tyres do you, never buy discounted or special offers?

And of course as you don't skimp on pads you always buy genuine, what with them being made by the caliper maker and having the correct composition for the disc?

Fool. Smegbrains by name....

zzr lon wrote:
gold fren are not cheap as you will be buying another set a few days later assuming you managed to stop and didn't kill yourself.


]trust me they are rubbish[


There are incompatabilities with 80's high iron content solid discs such as CX500 or GT550 but considering these are probably the best selling brake pads in the UK approved to all the standards EBC are I think it would be fair to say you sir are talking absolute bollocks.
On top of which not only do I sell these and have done for 11 years I also use them on my own despatch bikes which do outrageous mileages and on my fun bikes, GSXR's and a Fireblade.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:

There are incompatabilities with 80's high iron content solid discs


Out of interest, what pads would you recommend for these bikes?
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
sickpup wrote:

There are incompatabilities with 80's high iron content solid discs


Out of interest, what pads would you recommend for these bikes?


You sound like a man who has also seen this. I recommend simply using the Genuine pads. Materials in pads have changed so much over the last 20 years I couldn't guarantee anything else would be compatible.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Gold Fran on my GSX and it stops. They squeak like a bus but they stop.

It'll do me till I can replace the master cylinder.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good guess!

One of my bikes is an '87 XV1000. Twin disc. New pistons and seals, new braided lines, recon MC and it still takes a good tug to slow it down. I have gold frens on at the moment not brilliant but better than the EBC pads that were fitted. Almost feels like the disc or pads are glazed.

I'll try OEM but something tells me that they might not be the same as they were 22 years ago Wink

I think heavier, progressive springs might help but its hard to get them for a decent price. I also think the fact that I have several later bikes means that I tend to compare them with each other and there is no way that a standard 80's bike will outbrake something 20 years newer.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is I've seen this so many times and as a professional the best thing I can do is recommend genuine as they invariably work, how well is another matter.

The other issue is shiny discs, ones with a high chromium content. They don't rust and they look good they just don't stop as they don't dissipate heat quick enough..
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slight hijack, has anybody used sbs sintered pads before? I know that Toby used to rave about bendix. I probably wouldn't mind propping for another set of Gold Frens, but at the end of the day, how many people are able to determine their braking performance in terms of their pads for regular riding? Other factors such as brake fluid fade, state of pistons would surely have an effect?

The last pads I used were vesrah and I was quite happy with their stopping power. Very potent once i cleaned out the pistons.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:
Slight hijack, has anybody used sbs sintered pads before? I know that Toby used to rave about bendix. I probably wouldn't mind propping for another set of Gold Frens, but at the end of the day, how many people are able to determine their braking performance in terms of their pads for regular riding? Other factors such as brake fluid fade, state of pistons would surely have an effect?

The last pads I used were vesrah and I was quite happy with their stopping power. Very potent once i cleaned out the pistons.


About the same amount that can actually tell the difference between one tyre and another.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was in the same position a few weeks ago.

Looked in other sites and people were saying sintered have more less power but more life. Standard have more power but a shorter life.

They recommended sintered pads for track use for some reason though..
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 04 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
smegbrains wrote:
In my own opinion, that tells me everything I need to know. I never skimp on brakes or tyres.


So you always pay full retail price on tyres do you, never buy discounted or special offers?

And of course as you don't skimp on pads you always buy genuine, what with them being made by the caliper maker and having the correct composition for the disc?

Fool. Smegbrains by name....


Cor don't hold back! I'm perfectly happy to have my opinion corrected. Someone like yourself with more knowledge on this subject would quite rightly have a more valued opinion, however that's no excuse for a lack of politeness!

From reading "cheap" and "on ebay" I formed an opinion based on multiple prior experiences that those two resulted in "shite" and gave my opinion as such.

I do not pay full retail price on anything if I can get away with it. I am naturally suspicious of anything going cheap on ebay, unless corrected by someone with more knowledge.

By not skimping on pads/tyres, I will go for recommendations and opinions from those more knowledgable than myself in order to get the greatest value for money, rather than just buying the cheapest I can find.

People do the same with me in my area of expertise (computing) and are never made to feel foolish for holding an opinion, unless they are unwilling to alter that opinion after receiving professional advice.

So are these pads actually any good then for my future reference?
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 05 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You made a judgement on something on price and availability alone. You assumed that because they are cheap and available on Ebay that they are crap. Yet on the other hand you don't buy genuine pads which are expensive.
BT020's are cheap on Ebay at the moment, that doesn't make them a crap tyre.

When you make a rash judgement on something without trying to find anything out about it it will often come back and bite you on the arse. It did.

If people want I could always try and sugar coat my comments but then you wouldn't get anything like the truth. You would get the usual polite uninformed uninterested salesman patter that would sell you cheesecake to use as brake pads if there was a profit in it. I prefer the harsh truth myself and at least people accept I am telling the truth.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 05 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faraz wrote:
Looked in other sites and people were saying sintered have more less power but more life. Standard have more power but a shorter life.


Opposite I would say. Sintered pads partly came around to aid in wet weather braking. The main disadvantage is that they wear the disks out more quickly.

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