Wales Bank Holiday Monday rideout (Mon 29th) - Organisation

[dodsi]

Ask for a mate with more experiance to show/help colin, best way to learn really.

The scottoiler is a doddle and once set up like mine you never touch the chain hardly again, ultimate lazyboy peice of kit.

T'was good to meet some of you, Those I didnt speak too dont be offended, its probably because just I dont like you.

Very good roads really enjoyed it!

well apart from when maurice tried to take us too a local brothel...

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[colin1]

[EuropeanNC30R...]

[EuropeanNC30R...]

[extreme3d]

[colin1]

you need to check for tight spots when adjusting the chain to know how much slack to give it

cant remember exactly how its done, but basically if you check for slack when the tight spot is in one position, you will get a different amount of slack as when the tight spot is in another position

so you either adjust with the tight spot on the sprocket, or on the mid point between the two. cant remember which
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[extreme3d]

[Simple]

[Simple]

[colin1]

scott oilers are good for lazy ppl with cash (me) as long as they are set up right (oops). mine is missing the nozzle bit that puts the oil on the chain

once ive got the dual injector fitted it shd be ok tho, the problem is im too lazy to get round to fitting it
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[colin1]

[extreme3d]

[dodsi]

wow, so much pent up anger jimmy!

[Simple]

Firstly the car park thing

people park in groups as this is generally where the cctv will be watching, my dad only once parked away from the group, the car was broken into the radio (without the fascia) and my school bag stolen. lesson learnt when the cctv guy said sorry we tend to watch the main clump of cars...not alot we could do about it.

Having a chain incorrectly adjusted will damage the bearings by pulling on them, I think it would also cause intersting tyre wear as the rear wheel is pulled slightly wonky. Deffinetly not a good thing
by damage I mean uneven wear, I dont know the technical terms but the little groove the ball bearings roll in will be worn so that the little BB's dont fit as snuggly, resulting in them running away and leaving you with a buggered bearing.

You havent replaced wheel bearings yet then? last set I replaced were £6 each.. so that's £12 you could have spent on 12 bottles of chain lube and just taking the time to adust your chain properly.

*rings bell* ding ding round two
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[colin1]

i can see why he might think admiting he was wrong might mean simple wd drop it.

I think simple is more fond of having the last word than most ppl on here tho.

The whole ppl as sheep, repeating often heard advice was interesting but a bit of a detour I thought rather than anger.

Although I have seen simple poke ppl into a rage before
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[Simple]

[colin1]

yeah well said.

extreme now has to think of something to say in reply so we can see if simple will let someone else have the last word. For this to work, extreme will have to say something bland and innocuous so that simple wont feel the need to reply
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[extreme3d]

No no, Simple is right. It's always best to be sure. There is only one thing worse than wrong advice and that's bad advice. If it's wrong it just won't work at all. If it's bad then it can often do more harm than good by doing something half right.

Anyway.. just for you Simple!!:

[Phoenix]

Wheel bearings aren't the problem (and they're not cheap btw, the sprocket side bearing on my GSXR rear wheel was £16 from a bearing wholesaler, most are about £5-6. The problem is that if your chain has significant tight spots then it's putting a lot of strain on the front sprocket which can, over time, and lots of harsh use, kill your front sprocket bearing (output shaft bearing). It may be a £5 bearing, but you've gotta get inside the crankcase to repalace it. Granted this isn't common failure, but it's a risk you run when you don't maintain your chain properly.

And chains do snap when they have the odd tightspot, several members of this forum can give you examples of this, myself being one, engine damage frequently results.

[EuropeanNC30R...]

It's true about bearings, but I don't think you two saw how slack Colin's chain was, it wouldn't have taken much more wear to just lift it off the rear sprocket You should find fine throttle control a lot easier when it's properly tensioned Colin.

[John C]

Don't forget that the chain will tighten as you sit on the bike and compress the rear suspension. Get someone else of equivalent weight to sit on the bike if your not sure and look for about 25-35mm of drive chain slack at the tightest point.

Whilst your down there you might want to check your tyre pressures. If you've neglected to adjust the chain, you've probably not bothered to check the pressures for a while either. Having the correct tyre pressures will completely change the handling characteristics of the bike.

Good luck with the Scottoiler, they really are wonderful things when properly adjusted. Some will say that they get just as good chain life by lubing thier chain every night, but unless they set to with a toothbrush and some WD40 they are just building up a grinding paste. With the Scottoiler your chain will always look like new and run a lot smoother too. Once I fitted mine I spent a good 30 minutes cleaning the chain to give me a good starting point, it now looks exactly the same as the day I cleaned it and it only just needs adjusting after 4000 miles (bear in mind that my 1000 will eat the chain faster than most 600's I'd say that 4k is a quite good adjustment interval).

Just make sure you keep an eye on the flow rate and adjust for the temperature your riding in and you'll be fine. You might find at first that the oiler flings slippery stuff all up the sidewall of the tyre, which in turn runs over the edge onto the contact area. This is obviously not good, but with a little fine tuning the problem goes away.

[dodsi]

Bang on.

[extreme3d]

Bang On from me to Spackie!!

[EuropeanNC30R...]

If your chain builds up a grinding paste you are using the wrong type of lube