Breaking its back....

[Villers]

Some background first: Recent accident for unknown reason, two months off it and then brand new SV650s.

Im stuck in an absolute rut at the moment. I have put 300 miles on my brand new bike in three weeks. The weather is partly to blame, the tyres are partly to blame, my confidence is partly to blame but the main reason is the running in period is doing my head in!!

Having gone from screaming the tits off an inline 4 600cc, to 5500 rpm on a brand new V twin, I constantly feel anxiety taking over me. I have one eye on the rev counter and one eye on the road. I start to get twitchy if I hear high revs in the bends, I feel pathetic when I havent got enough revs left to overtake.

Has anyone else suffered this? The way I feel now, with another 200 miles before I get to 8250rpm is that I never want to buy a brand new bike again. Surely it cant be worth suffering this again!! I guess Im being a bit of a spoiled git whinging over running in a new bike (you want some cheese with that whine villers? ) but it really is startung to get to me!!

On another note, a bloke at work took delivery of his brand new KTM 950 (is that right?) last thursday, he set out on a mission over the weekend to get to his first service interval in two days - which he duly did. This morning he phoned thye KTM dealers to book that all important first service only to be told he has to wait three weeks!! He's right on the verge of his mileage so no more riding the bike he has owned for 4 days!! Wasnt happy!! Luckily he has a Ducati to play on when its dry


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[Jack_Cheese]

If i ever buy a brand new bike, the first thing i do will be taking it on a camping trip. A jaunt up to keswick or somewhere, then a weekend of exploration. I'd book the service straight away, just to make sure they could fit me in. Your mate on the KTM must be kicking himself!

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[www.125power.com]

Warm the enigne thouroughly 10mins idle or a few minutes gentle ride, then let it rip for about 20-30miles. That should see rings sealed properly. Then after that dont worry so much about high revs but more of how you use them. Use them only once in a while and dont acclerate hard to get there either. This should see bike run in within around 150-200 miles, take it easy for another 50-100miles and then your done runnign it in. Change oil at 300 too and still have it done at 600 service.

^^ I have never done this but know of a few that ran all their bikes like this and never had any troubles
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At least the fairly flat power delivery of the SV means that you've got relatively decent go from low revs .

[Villers]

[MarJay]

Rev it as hard as you like, just don't keep constant revs anywhere.

it doesn't matter if you stray over occasionally. Enjoy it!
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[extreme3d]

Stick to the rough limits set in the manual, but the odd overtake isn't going to do any harm.

[Dark]

I didn't really experience the same issues running in a new ZX10R last year, but i only ran it in for 500 miles and its not exactly slow anyway
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[dainesefreak]

Same for me, Honda only say "no full power starts" for the run in period in the manual. Oh ok.

[Adam_P]

I hadn't got a clue what the running in period was meant to be when I picked my bike up at the dealership.

I actually phoned them up about 2 hours later to ask whether I should be keeping it below a certain amount of revs. "about 7-8K" came the reply.

"Oh, ok," I said.

This was after I'd come down the M1 nudging 10-11K on the way to Donington...

I ran it in almost to the letter after that though, and it's absolutely fine.

If you want to know about running a new bike in hard, ask Jay, he thrashed the shit out the dealer R6 that I got him a go on!
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[TheDonUK]

Villiers i dont know how many miles you do or what kind of rider you are, but when i am lucky enough to get a new bike, i spend ALL day on it, and usually run it in in under 24 hours. Not only do you become more familiar with the handling but you get that annoying period out the way quickly. Some of the looks i have had from dealers bringing it back the next day for its first service were classic...

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[Jack_Cheese]

Wasn't there a study on two kawasakis, one thrashed to buggery from new and one run-in, the the thrashed one produced more power or something? No idea if it's true or not, but it cropped up in one of these running in debates before.

I know most people stick to the book when running the bike in, but are they really that necessary given the modern alloys which are used in the engine? If the afforementioned test does exist, then i'd like to see it. If not, it would make an interesting test.

Jack
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[Hotdog]

Brand New SV650 ?

Disappointed at having to run it in ?

You wait until you have run it in and then you have to live with the shoddy budget piece of crap........



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[Hotdog]

Hi extreme3d,

Insult ? No.

Honest unbiased appraisal - I'd like to think so...



Firstly, to say that Ducatis are unreliable and expensive to maintain is not an insult.

Secondly, my comments about the antiquated engine design used in Buells is 100% accurate. This is not an insult to Buells I did in fact point out that if they had a modern engine (the evo engine dates back to the mid 80s and was hardly cutting edge even then) they would be a very good bike.

If they were a cheap option then they would be a good buy, but they aren't, they are hideously overpriced and let's be honest - you are paying to be part of 'the american dream'.

SV650s ?

Have I insulted them by offering an honest opinion ?

I think not.

Thanks for your 'opinion' though.



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[Villers]

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[Villers]

An honest thought from superbike magazine on the ccm....

[jay12329]