kawasaki zzr1400 or the suzuki hayabusa???

skelly · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

i have heard many arguments about the zzr1400 being faster than the busa i just want to know everyones opinion i do like the hayabusa the looks and the performance but ive read somewhere in a magazine that the zzr1400 is faster and better in performance?? what do you know or think??
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I would go for the zzr; but, are you going to be doing much drag racing?

If not, I'd go for the one that is most comfortable for you to ride.
Get some test rides.

skelly · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

alien.46.uk · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 24 May 2006 Karma :

The zzr has been restricted at somewhere around 180 i beleive and de-restricted, its very close to the busa i beleive.

Not sure if its a beater, could well be as (even thought it me fav bike) the busa needs a decent rival/beater so the suzi might get on the bandwagon Razz

Ill copy down a reveiw from MCN of the ZZR if u want, plus if i can find it, ill take a shot of it for ya to read Razz

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Pretty much all new fast road bikes (including these two) are restricted to 186mph (300kph) in a "Gentleman's agreement".

If I were actually buying a brand-new fast bike, I'd go for a thousand CC one, some of which come with more power stock than the busa.

Keen · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Karma :

I'm not sure, they're both restricted to 186mph (300kph) anyway (fair enough you can derestrict), so a review I read in Bike seemed a bit inconclusive.

It sounds to me like the zzr is about as fast, but maybe a bit more useable and aimed at big-distance sports tourers, whereas the suzuki is still the nutter's choice....
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BigChris · Spanner Monkey Joined: 25 May 2005 Karma :

Actually, the ZX12 is the nutters choice coz its easier through corners. A lot easier.

Shame you cant get a decent turbo to slap on em tho Sad

alien.46.uk · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 24 May 2006 Karma :

Slap on a Turbo and become the Next Ghost Rider on the Turbo Busa Razz

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ram_doom · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Karma :

ZX 12 everytime in that category Mr. Green

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extreme3d · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Karma :

Speaking to Infinity in York, Kawasaki have no zzr1400's availiable in this country. All bikes meant for this country have been bought in the states and will be shipped over there. The waiting list is already long for next year.

McGee · O RLY? Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Karma :

Get a new GSXR 1000 Wink

Some where says that a stock zzr 1400 can make a standing quarter mile in the 9's which is the fastest for any stock bike Shocked

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craigs23 · Mr Muscle Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Karma :

Over hyped as usual, 198bhp was an optimistic manufacturer's claim, turns out it makes 168 at the rear wheel (as tested by Bike this month). A ZX10R, tested at 165bhp also beat it on roll on acceleration, due to carrying less weight.

Pretty sure I saw a silver one rolling into Boxhill on Sunday (flanked by a ZZR12 and Busa).

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

One guy on 200mph picked up his ZZR14 on Friday. And wrote it off on Saturday. Another has his being put together now.

From most of the tests the ZX12R is still be best very high speed road bike. More powerful engine than the 'busa and better handling, but less tuning potential and worse aerodynamics.

The 'busa engine is pretty tough and can take a lot of tuning with little work. Stupid amounts of power are available.

The ZZR14 seems to have better top end power than the 'busa / ZX12R, but not by much. Does seem to have good aerodynamics (good job, it is almost as ugly as the 'busa) and also appears to have a better fairing for high speed use.

But then there are rumours of a new 'busa at the end of 2007.

All the best

Keith
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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

The quarter mile does not lie. A 9.17 @ 153 MPH by the ZZR14 burys the Busa in a straight line.
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Johnny GSX-R · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Karma :

The ZZR1400 is not a tourer!! There's nowhere to fit any luggage.

The ZZR that put in the 9sec quarter was modded, it had an aftermarket exhaust system and was lowered to aid it off the line.
In stock trim they are doing mid 10's...
ZZR1400 cannot be de-restricted lke the BUSA as the restriction is in the ECU and fueling where as the BUSA is on the speedo and can be eliminated for £10 and 10 seconds.

The ZZR IS in the country as i was looking at a blue one on Friday last week.

BigChris, how can you make a statement like you did about the ZX12R being far better handling than the BUSA???? Have you really hustled one yet?? I can assure you they are NO slouch in the twisties as my rear tyre will show. Cool

The BUSA is also £1500 cheaper than the ZZR, the Zeds value will plummet as with all the ZZR range has, especially the 1200, what a lemon that was compared to the 1100 (soz TeaMan but Kwak were trying to shift them at the 1st opportunity for a knockdown price).

I'll stick with my BUSA thanks, far more potential than the 'Z' for tuning and handling, also, its iconic status means it will always have a huge fan base.
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ZZR Girl · Trackday Trickster Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Karma :

If you're thinking of getting a ZZR1400, you might like to take a look at this first:

https://www.zzr-international.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2613&sid=899c91f3405f6c0d26151e66f8763978
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Keir · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Karma :

zx12r not as tuneable?

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX12R-TURBO-YES-TURBO-PX-POSS-CAR-BIKE_W0QQitemZ4647937483QQcategoryZ9807QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Only 300hp which is not that much compared to what you can get from a 'busa with a turbo. And I know that the Big CC "Project Pisstake" turbo 'busa was running on stock rods until they got it quite a way past 500hp.

All the best

Keith
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