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 phantomtek Lil Joe Tek
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 Posted: 23:57 - 17 Jun 2006 Post subject: Psychology Degree? |
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Does anybody on here have one?
The reason is that I quite enjoy learning about Psychology and I would like a career based around it. I just finished my AS so I'm doing it at A2, which seems quite cool, I just thought I'd see if anyone has any experience of the subject at University level.
Is it interesting? Hard? Useful?
Because I want to either be a Psychologist, or maybe go into the Police and I think that having the degree in Psychology might help me because you would be a better people person, negotiator, or maybe give me a boost into Dog Handling which is also what I might like to do. It's just this sort of medium that makes me want to do it for a living, after I talked to Greg and realised it's the enjoying what you do for a living not how much it pays.
So any experience or comments are very welcome.
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I took psychology for an AS level, hated it, it was absolutely shite in my opinion, was just about learning studies, approaches and what not. But it could, like you say, help u get into the police force ____________________ Proud owner of a Honda CG 2005 model with 1005 Miles on the clock - Bought on 19/12/2005  |
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I'm currently doing a psychology degree at St Andrews - I've been doing it for two years and am going into Honours this September (Scotland has a four-year degree system, not three years like England and Wales).
My thoughts in no real order, and at great length :
Firstly, psychology degrees come in two flavours - BA and BSc. There is absolutely no difference between the two and students will attend exactly the same lectures, labs, tutorials and seminars, it just reflects the definition of psychology being both a science and an art.
I find it interesting, but that's a very subjective thing. I also found it interesting at Higher (similar to AS/A2, I think) level if that's any help. You tend to end up liking certain parts of the topic more than others, for example most of my classmates (including myself) hate neuroscience but like social or abnormal psychology.
Whether or not it's hard is also a bit of a subjective thing, since some people seem more adept at remembering facts or at learning highly technical information and so on. Students in other subjects tend to claim that psychology is a 'bullshit degree' which can be done by absolutely anybody and that their own degree is much harder... until they actually try it, at whicn point Art students find it scary because its too technical for them and Science students find it scary because its not technical enough!
It is the kind of degree that needs steady work, I think, if you spend most of the year lazing around and then cram for exams your comprehension of the subject will not be nearly as good.
Bear in mind that any psychology degree you do WILL involve doing statistics. This is easily the most hated bit of the course and doing badly at has dragged a lot of my classmates' marks downwards, one of them so much that he's now not allowed to do Honours Psychology, so it helps if you have a head for numbers.
A word of warning about the idea of becoming a 'people person': it doesn't give you social skills (or hasn't with me so far, at any rate). At best I think it may have given me a better appreciation of how best to behave when entering a given social situation, but that's in a very limited sense and certainly not refined enough for steering a conversation or calming people down effortlessly. It does help you spot salesman/marketing tactics, though.
As for the animal handling thing, the area of behavioural psychology is probably relevant (to do with 'conditioning', how to get an animal to respond in a certain way to a certain stimulus) but the vast majority of psychology deals with humans e.g. how we remember, what causes schizophrenia, alruistic behaviour.
Probably the best resource you can check out is the British Psychological Society website - when I was thinking of doing psychology they had downloadable leaflets with slightly cheesy names like 'So You Want To Be A Psychologist' that give information on what kind of jobs might require a psychology degree, the different sorts of psychology-related jobs and so on. The website also allows you to see which universities have psychology degrees accredited by the BPS - if you graduate from an accredited course then this gives you the Graduate Basis for Registration, this GBR allows you to become a member of the BPS, and this in turn is (apparently) considered good because it makes you a chartered psychologist (should you become a psychologist, obviously) which means you're answerable to an independent body and so on. Could be the BPS blowing their own trumpet a bit, and to be honest you'll be hard pushed to find a psychology degree in Britain that's NOT accredited.
Hope that helps and wasn't too messed up to read, English doesn't really seem a strong suit at the moment! |
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| Reuben wrote: | Live a bit before getting a degree in pshychology. People who you treat will find it patronising that someone so young is doing it/helping them, however good you may be, and no-one who has just gone through education can have experienced lot's of different thing's that would help make someone a good pshychiatrist imo. |
I think I'm pretty good at giving advice even at the tender age of 17, I hear it all the time from people who come to me with their problems and I enjoy giving them advice and seeing the good things that come of them following it. Suppose that is just the beginning of things that I would have to deal with. The dog handling part is about animal psychology and the way the human interacts, I just thought it would be a good thing to have.
Though, you make an extremely good point.
| Kam wrote: | I took psychology for an AS level, hated it, it was absolutely shite in my opinion, was just about learning studies, approaches and what not. But it could, like you say, help u get into the police force |
Yeah that's about the bulk of it, but I did quite enjoy it, maybe because I sat next to a lass and there were other fit lasses from different schools attending that I could stare at, or that I actually enjoyed the lesson, I don't know, though both are true.
| Amorphous wrote: | I'm currently doing a psychology degree.... |
Wow, that's amazing advice. Just what I wanted, cheers for taking the time to write that.
| Amorphous wrote: | It is the kind of degree that needs steady work, I think, if you spend most of the year lazing around and then cram for exams your comprehension of the subject will not be nearly as good. |
Yeah I found that out the hard way in my first exam, because I got a U from not revising. But then I put some work in and got a C in PYA3, which wasn't all bad. I would be prepared to put the work in, generally because I'm dead against the fact that most students just go to University for the layabout etc.
| Amorphous wrote: | Bear in mind that any psychology degree you do WILL involve doing statistics. |
Yeah, we have done abit of this in our AS level, luckily I did Statistics 1 in AS Maths so I have abit of experience in how to handle my numbers, if only basic. Though, it still bores me and I think Maths is out of the window for A2, depends on what I get.
| Amorphous wrote: | At best I think it may have given me a better appreciation of how best to behave when entering a given social situation, |
That's about the most of what I wanted to acheive, the rest you have to learn in the real world not on a course I suppose.
| Amorphous wrote: | As for the animal handling thing, the area of behavioural psychology is probably relevant (to do with 'conditioning', how to get an animal to respond in a certain way to a certain stimulus) but the vast majority of psychology deals with humans e.g. how we remember, what causes schizophrenia, alruistic behaviour. |
Yeah that's also what I wanted to acheive from that bit, as I like anything to do with the mind, and what makes people tick so to speak.
| Amorphous wrote: | Probably the best resource you can check out is the British Psychological Society website |
I will do, thanks alot for your advice.
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| phantomtek wrote: |
Wow, that's amazing advice. Just what I wanted, cheers for taking the time to write that. |
No worries! I've been thinking more and stuff like how to handle people is probably covered in police training anyway, since part of the job could involve trying to prevent potentially hostile situations. If not then I'm sure there are lots of courses (maybe evening classes?) that you could apply to.
Also I noticed someone else mentioning the idea of being a psychologist and that if you're too young people may find it patronising... to be honest the odds of being a psychologist while still young enough for others to consider you 'too young' are low because:
- to become a Clinical Psychologist you need to do a doctorate in Clinical Psychology (3 years full time)
- competition for these is very high, so to get on to a course you generally need experience as an Assistant Psychologist (2-3 years, I would guess) and quite a good degree (2:1 or higher - some places will take a 2:2 if you have other relevant experience or further qualifications, like a Masters instead of a Bachelors)
- competition to get a job as an Assistant Psychologist is also high, so you need some work experience in a relevant field e.g. working in a retirement home where some of the patients may have Alzheimer's, some sort of counselling job like the Samaritans (very work-intensive, apparently) or a Student Support Network. The trouble is that these jobs generally aren't paid. The best tactic is to try and get this experience during the summer when you're off uni, but then it might feel a bit like you're just working all the time and never get a chance to relax. Personally I'm sticking to moneyed jobs like working in shops (so I can buy a motorbike! ), but I may regret this later!
- the degree itself is at least 3 years
...all in all you're looking at a minimum 8 years, I think, assuming that you get the work experience during summer. It's also quite common for most people to have to apply several years in a row because they don't get in the first time.
Sorry if that all seems a bit grim, I want to do Clinical Psychology and having to spell it all out is making me feel really dispirited now!  |
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Phanny , if you do , do it then don't let the power go to your head , if you've studied psychology you will defo have read about the case where there was a mock prison made in the US where one party were fake guards the other party was fake prisoners , and the power went to the heads of the guards and they started to abuse the 'prisoners'
and the experiment was stopped well short of the alloted time since they feared the 'guards' would start killing the prisoners.
Milgram or something (been a while since I studied psychology),
Added the the fact the mental health acts these days are so broad sectioning is wayy too powerful like to get rid of political enemies and stuff.
That said you are 17 , which will allow plenty of time for your idealism and altruism to fade and turn to hard bitter edged cynicism.  ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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| Black Knight wrote: | Aimee did it for her degree, personally, I think its a load of shite.
She's working in a nuthouse now with some real crazy mo fo's. |
I am reconsidering after hearing all this work and time goes into it. I do enjoy the subject though.
| Itchy wrote: | Phanny , if you do , do it then don't let the power go to your head , if you've studied psychology you will defo have read about the case where there was a mock prison made in the US where one party were fake guards the other party was fake prisoners , and the power went to the heads of the guards and they started to abuse the 'prisoners'
and the experiment was stopped well short of the alloted time since they feared the 'guards' would start killing the prisoners.
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It was Zimbardo that carried out that test, conformity in certain social roles I think it was It was ethically unsound because it was getting way out of control like you said.
I only want to go to University to get a decent career, as it's quite hard to get one without a degree these days, employers are all looking for the degree.
Amorphous, I don't like the sound of that one bit, thanks for all your advice, I think I'm going to give it a miss. 8 years of my youth could be spent doing something else, I might get back into it in later life but now I think I'll leave it I think I may still consider doing the degree though as that is only 3 years which is the length of most degrees I think?
Oh I don't know.
Cheers for all your advice guys, think I'm going to have to reconsider after hearing all of this  |
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That's only if you want to become a clinical psychologist, and only because the competition for posts is so high. Doing a psychology degree doesn't lock you into a psychology career, it can be a springboard for many things! As you said it may help with a police career. In any event some people tend to think that 'the university experience' is in itself good and that the type of degree doesn't matter.
Good luck either way, and I hope I haven't scared you too much.  |
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Cagiva_gezzer that is good advice, cheers for that. I was dead against going to University like I say but I heard it's worth it for the life experience so I'll go but turn my emo laser to kill, not stun. I'll probably get some prospectuses soon, I had a load but threw them away because I didn't think I would be going anyway. I'll probably go to Leeds MET or Leeds University, or maybe even Sheffield because then I don't have to travel far, not that I'm limiting my options just yet I'm just trying to keep the costs down.
I will look into the whole malarky further, cheers for your advice.  |
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Do not be another one of the muggy cunts doing psychology.
Its the easiest degree i've ever seen, and ive developed a healthy hate of psychology students.
Its the whole;
The reason you do this, is because of the edipus complex. You do that cos of the edipus complex. Freud this, freud that.
The will NEVER concede the fact they are just bloody theorys.
It was when one of them goes to me, you're the youngest of three right... then i KNOW your siblings are 2 + 4 years older then you.
Which does happen to be true, but there is no way they should be saying with such confidence a bloody obvious theory. Its quite obvious it takes around a year after birth for people to even consider another child. Its bloody obvious.
But its still a fucking theory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You seriously have no idea how stupid the vast majority of the idiots are too, and trust me, i go to Bangor uni, EVERY cunts a psychology student. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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go do something useful instead like engineering / construction / architecture lots of cash in that , and maybe I'm biased but I'd personally love to say look I designed and helped build that (pointing at a very high large building).
In all honesty I wish I did one of those creative degrees or computer assisted manufacturing , I always come up with silly inventions. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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My Dad used to say stuff like that all the time, I built that house, we put those fences up, stuff like that, might not be much to you lot but I think it was really cooll him being able to say that. I went on work experience with him at his work and thoroughly enjoyed it though it was really hard manual labour in all weather, it was brilliant. I would probably get into that business if it had any long term benefits and stuff because I enjoyed it, but the business isn't what it used to be.
I'm starting to go against the Psychology degree more and more, and lean more towards a Science degree but that will have to wait until the end of the year until I get my A2 results or at least until I've done more of this year's Biology, like I say I find it interesting but the lessons are infinitely boring.
We are also taught that Freud is largely descredited these days.
Anyway, Freud said that your hatred of Psychology students all boils down to the Oedipus complex anyway.  |
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The thing is, i took psychology at AS too, and by crimbo i wanted to stab every psychology teacher i had. They are the michael shcumachers of teaching.
And psychology, is best summed up as this.
I have a theory that people dont like pain... so im going to get a batch of monkeys and poke them in the eyes with sticks... and then see if they come to me happily.
*poking... monkeys screaming*
Aha, the monkeys did not come to me, thus i have proved my theory that pain is not liked.
No shit sherlock.
I mean psychology is just common sense and the ability to call a spade a spade. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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the Best degree you can do is one that you Enjoy, you find interesting AND has the prospect of a decent career at the end of it, even if the career is unrelated to the subject you study.
Don't let people tell you what you should or shouldnt do.
I'd reccomend doing a psychology degree IF that's what you really want to do, and are confident you'll do well and enjoy it.
yes, there's probably a greater prospect of a good, well paid career with a science or engineering degree, but if you're not interested in it, or don't enjoy it, then you are more likely to fail.
I'd rather see someone with a good psychology degree than a engineering drop-out with nothing.
by all means look about and see what else you find intersting, don't just do what people say.
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