Vegetarianism

[veeeffarr]

I was 11, in the IOW with school.

It was my birthday and I had a special table for dinner which all of my friends sat on along with some ugly whinging tart who wanted some of my cake, fucking bitch (bear in mind we were 11)

She was a veggie.

I then proceeded to eat a burger in front of her whilst shouting "MOLLY MOO COW IS BEING PACKED IN A VAN TO GO TO THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE".

She then projectile vomited on the floor and ran out of the room crying.

Man, annoying women are fucking funny to wind up.

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[Kitten]

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Its kinda like when someone tells us they wont go near bikes, cos some cousin twice removed once grazed his knee.

Or people wont go near drugs, cos they once heard about someone who took 15 ecstacy, danced for 10 hours straight and drank shitloads of tequila and they died...

Weird that.

I dont like people who have absolutely no idea about what they are talking about, trying to act superior to me, especially when they start quoting complete bullshit science.

My two passions are bikes and biology. I happen to know a fair bit about both. So usually, unless i cant be arsed, if someone is boasting/preaching about something they obviously have no fooking idea about (such as 120mph mitos etc) i explain to them they are idiots.
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[finpos]

Here's some clues:

1. That lass doesn't want to shag you because you have a closed mind and you show no interest or even empathy towards things she might find important. She told you she is a lesbian so not to hurt your feelings.
2. Once she finds out you posted her picture on a mong website, called her an idiot and broadcast intimate sexual information about her, she's definitely never going to shag you.
3. If you have a genuine interest in science, you need to be able to learn the difference between a well reasoned, logical arguement and diatribe posted in a blog.
4. Look up the word "prejudice" in a dictionary.

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[akaDAVE]

That took a while to read!

It is a good article/essay. It sold the point to me completely. I don't blame some veggies here for taking exception to BRs attitude but you should come forward with a better arguement than just shouting prejudice!
Otherwise it just goes to prove the whole article correct.

In my experience I have to say that I've found veggies hard to fathom. I lived with a girl at Uni who who wouldn't eat meat because she 'didn't like the taste', however she at those fake sausages, bacon and quorn chicken!?!?! What the fuck.
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[finpos]

Whoever wrote that article is one of three things:

1. A very good troll.
2. An inadequate academic who displays very little common sense or scientific rigour. I'm not sure if his area of expertese would be anthropology, economics, biology or psycology, but I'm not at all sure he has a good grasp of any of these.
3. A sexually frustrated and angry young man, possibly drunk at the time of writing.

It's clearly NOT well researched; there are no actual references.

It's not falsifiable simply because a great deal of it is opinion (look for little clues in the text; phrases like "this is my belief). The essay reads like an exercise in using every common form of logical fallacy in a single text, and as such does not stand up to any real scrutiny.

Don't they teach this stuff at University any more?

Perhaps if you didn't attack people so vociferously for their personal lifestyle choices they would be more willing to discuss them in depth with you.

I have a perfectly well balanced diet, thank-you.

finpos.

[Raffles_Gentleman Thug]

Ok.

Well, around 1/3 of the world is actually vegetarian, large swathes of China, many Buddists, lots of Thailand, etc etc.

Now, as cavemen, especially in environments with harsh winters, we were vegetarian for much of the year when catching the sparse few animals wasn't worth the effort.


Anyway. Back to the point.

I choose not to eat meat because: I don't trust the meat industry, I don't agree with the cruel ways in which the animals are kept or killed, and to be honest, I have been since I was born.

I'm healthy, well built, and rarely ill.

I've never attempted to force my views on anyone. I have never ever objected to anyone eating meat, in my presence, even in my own house. If I take a girl out for dinner and she has meat, I pay for it.

It's just not for me, in the same sense that I don't have any interest in football, I don't discourage others from it though.

To be honest I don't even tell people unless they ask, or offer me meat. And if they do, I thank them for their hospitality. If anyone asks about my choice I'm happy to discuss it sensibly. Most vegetarians are the same - sounds like you're hanging with the wrong people.

If I'm honest, vegetarians bring out the worst in meat-eaters, they often feel the need to justify their choice, with such rants as 'we're meant to eat animals' through 'you get ill if you don't' through to the alltogether more honest 'i like meat' which I respect.
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[finpos]

Now, here is something that is bizarre:

You're sticking to the opinion that vegetarians are usually immature whiney women with no valid reason to be so.

All the veggie hoards that have answered you here have been healthy, articulate well-reasoned males, pointing out that it's a personal choice and not something they tend to bang on about.

A number of perfectly valid reasons have been put forward for not eating meat:
* economic necessity
* like kittens
* just don't like the taste/texture of meat
* lack of trust in the meat industry
* religious belief

So, it seems the arguement is broader than you imagine.

Time to look up that word...

And give up with that article, as a work of humour or as a troll, it's good. As science, it's crud.

finpos.

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[colin1]

i am in favour of anything thing that makes girls less likely to be fat.

I also think it must be nice knowing that you have not supported animal suffering in any way.

I could probably go vegetarian if I wanted to as i quite like nuts and pulses, but I dont care enough about animals to bother changing my eating habits and I do like meat.

Religions that restrict eating meat for health reasons arent bothered about animal welfare.

I think Buddhism discourages eating meat more for reaons of animal welfare. I think there is some wierd religion in India that says you cant even hurt a plant so you live on nuts and seeds and fruit.
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[colin1]

not all vegetarians are militant vegans

hitler was a vegetarian but not all vegetarians are hitler either

i certainly wdnt pay the extra for organically reared meat, so any meat I eat involves animal suffering of some sort with the possible exception of lamb. I accept this as a part of life but i can see the attraction of living a life which doesnt support the keeping of animals in confined conditions.

damnit, u are making me consider being a veggie

but no, i love meat too much
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[innominate]

Vegeism has only one point, imo, that is that its environmetally freindly (or more so than meat.)



As for the bird.
She can be as fit as you want, but she is religious and a vege.
Might as well have aids...

About as appealing.
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I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the customs agent. I am the coast-guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable.

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[m99dws]

This topic has been covered time and time again, and my only reply in each is "If animals weren't meant to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat".

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[killa]

I have very very rarely heard an answer like Miraclefish for being a vegi, a friend of mine was dead against the slaughter of animals, certain crisps he wouldn’t have, certain sweets etc. but wore the leather shoes.

His mum and dad were pretty strict on the no meat thing, they ate fake sausages and such which are pretty foul……which led me to believe that they had something to do with the ideas he had.

I see it like this, he tells me that he does not “Support” the meat slaughtering, so that’s a good thing.

My thoughts were, why, you’ve not help one animal, and proved nothing.

He told me (when drunk) that I am putting nasty things in my body that I shouldn’t and believed the animals suffered before being put on my plate.
I didn’t feel all to good about it, perhaps I have an unstoppable function in me called “Self awareness” this does make me stop and think about the welfare of an animal but I wont stop eating meat because as well as tasting good, it makes me feel good, in my mind I feel I need it.

He might not support it by not eating the meat, but that’s like saying I pay £10 a month to Africa to help stop famine. It will never stop, the reasons being, the worlds food chain and our greedy economy need it.
The world will not struggle with 1/3 of the world being vegi, but if the rest joined then it would.
Some food supplement humans with things they got from meat a long time ago, vegetarians of today don’t necessarily need meat to survive as conditions are pretty fucking easy to get along with.

If you only ate plantation in some of the roughest country’s of this planet you’d die in just over a week, this doesn’t mean being a vegetarian is a bad thing it just means it’s not the future as some of them try and point out.

The only way they get their exotic fruits, the freshest greens, the best beans, is most probably because of some hard working, chunky truckers who has to survive his day on a 3500 calorie full English to cross the country.
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[veeeffarr]

Personally I think everyone has a choice to eat what they want for whatever reason they want...

Bonny, this thread is hypocritical, you have a go at Vegetarians forcing their views on other but yet you force your article on them.

[colin1]

id like to take the meat eaters a step further.

If i eat a bit of extra chicken not because I need it, but because I like the taste, an extra chicken will die to meet the demand.

So thats killing chickens for entertainment.

So cock fights should be allowed where cockerals lay into each other for my entertainment.
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