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Harley Godzisz
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: building my new garage Reply with quote

At the moment, I have a 5 meter long by 2.45 meter wide asbesdos paneled timber frame garage which is starting to fall apart after the 20+ odd years it's been there.

I have another 1.4 meters of length space behind the garave and 5.2 meters of space to the side of the garage both spaces are not being used at all and haven't been for the past 13 years since we moved in!

I would be making it out of timber/tongue and groove cladding with insulation for warmth in the winter because i use it all year round and it get's below zero in there in the winter months!

All the houses in my area are raised by about 3 feet from the ground.

My question is, if i decided to build a nice 6.3m long by 5.8m wide with a 2.3m head hight garage with a pitched roof bringintg the total hight to 3.5m, this is from the ground and not 3 feet up like the houses, would i need planning permission?
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need planning permission no matter how big it is. Even if it is your land and your house. Which, seems a bit stupid to me.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cause i'm thinking of just building it anyway and getting recipt's and dated pictures to prove the date it is built.

Cause' i know that if planning permission should have been obtained but nobody complained for atleast 3 years, it's then okay to leave the building where it is.

But i'm just trying to think of the safe side 1st.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not give your local planning office a phone and see what they say.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i give the planning office a call, they will keep a record of me applying/asking and if i'm turned down and stil go ahead with it, even after the 3 years it's been standing they cnan fine me and tell me to take it down within 7 days.

i want a new garage, but i don't wanna bbe denied. Sad

anyway... asbesdos is dangerous and cancerous!
i NEED a new garage before the end of the summer
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its made of wood and theres no permant foundations l think its classed as a temp structure which you do not need planning permission for, Das_noob will know (he,s a builder).
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think you can get away with people not complaning for 3 years then why not get planning permissiosn and build something a bit more permenant. Wooden structures need a lot more care and attnetion than bricks and mortar.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asbestos sheet isn't dangerous, as long as you don't crush it. It's the little strands that you breathe in which are dangerous.

I was under the impression that you didn't need planning permission for a single story building, but I might be wrong.

I can't see you being denied. We've got neighbours both sides and had a 2 story house exntension approved despite complaints from a neighbour. And we got planning permission for a shop at the front of the house, despite more complaints from a neighbour. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind you'll need a specialist company to take down the old one if it is asbestos. I believe planning permission would be required as you're intending to replace with a larger structure. From memory if it's a direct replacement then no, but the rules appear to change each week so as suggested 'phone planning department and ask. Better still write asking for a reply. Things on paper are always better than spoken in this area.

As also said if wooden structure (not sure about the permanent base - you already have a base after all) and so long as it's a certain distance from the house (in case of fire) and so far away from the boundary (I don't have the measurements in my head, please look them up, Google is your friend) then no permission required. Downside with wooden garage is your car/bike insurance company may insist on brick/concrete built.

Best of luck with the replacement Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need planning permission.

It's a temporary structure.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got some pictures to show the area...

the floor that the current old garage is standing onis concrete and is just big enough for the old garage at 5m long by 2.5m wide.

This is a picture of the side falling apart: https://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17211051048.jpg&s=x2

This is a picture of the back: https://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17211112948.jpg&s=x2

and I am going to come right upto the raised concrete base you see at the bottom left of the pic here: https://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17211134149.jpg&s=x2

BUT..... could his window be a problem? even though it's basically invading our privicy in our garden. Here: https://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17211155941.jpg&s=x2

BTW... the garage is 13.3 meters from the house.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A timber structure does not planning permission.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 22 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A timber structure does not planning permission.


Ok... so most people are saying this..... must mean i'm on to a winner Laughing

anybody know where i can get some cheap timber and panels near Staines (M25 J13) ??? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Re: guide to permitted development Reply with quote

kittycat wrote:
Hi there,
There is a free download on the planning page of this website for a guide to permitted development, you should find this rather useful. https://www.oakgarages.com/oak-framed-garages/planning-design
Hope you find this as helpful as I did. Smile


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PostPosted: 18:19 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Re: guide to permitted development Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:
kittycat wrote:
Hi there,
There is a free download on the planning page of this website for a guide to permitted development, you should find this rather useful. <link gone>
Hope you find this as helpful as I did. Smile


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PostPosted: 07:32 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

One post and straight to ban!
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