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PostPosted: 20:03 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: 0-100-0mph test (inc the Bugatti Veyron) Reply with quote
Okay, it's done by Autocar and there's only one bike in it (for comparison, the GSX-R1000), but it's still interesting. And that Bugatti is bloody fast!

https://www.automotoportal.com/article/Triumph_for_Bugatti_Veyron

Nice to see the Gixxer beat the Ariel Atom though! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought the ZZR1100 was capable of 0-100-0 in under 10 secs - maybe I'm misremembering though.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wooo, go gixxer! Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheShaggyDA wrote:
I thought the ZZR1100 was capable of 0-100-0 in under 10 secs - maybe I'm misremembering though.


According to this site it does the standing quarter in 10.9s at 134mph, so it's probably close (but pushing it I would think).
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ahem:
https://www.ultimasports.co.uk/records/part6.html

Smile

Though, if you add up the seperate 0 - 100 and 100 - 0 times, they both come out the same.

The GTR is probably actually more of a 'production' car than the Veyron though it's still-not-cheap circa £60k turnkey price tag is a bit more than the atom etc, you do get a roof Smile.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shame they didn't include the saleen s7 turbo. 1000+ horsepower and it weighs 1100 kg. Bye bye Veyron.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
lilredmachine wrote:
Shame they didn't include the saleen s7 turbo. 1000+ horsepower and it weighs 1100 kg. Bye bye Veyron.


Claimed figures say 750hp and 1338kg (and the claimed peak power is beyond the red line Laughing ).

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PostPosted: 22:41 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
wrong car keith,


an example:

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The Zonda makes 605 HP and 561 ft-lbs of torque, the S7 makes 750 HP and 700 ft-lbs of torque at roughly the same RPM range. 0-60's done in 2.8 seconds in the S7, as opposed to 3.6 in the Zonda. And the S7 generates significantly more downforce than the Pagani does, enough to be able to invert the car at 160 MPH and have it stick to the ceiling


the saleen s7 twin turbo has already been tested to 260 mph.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Those are the only specs I can find for the turbo one. Non turbo one had 550hp.

Although there are claims of an aftermarket tuning package for it.

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PostPosted: 22:46 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
The twin turbo is not an aftermarket package, the 1000hp saleen can be ordered with it from the factory.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Only one mentioned on there web site is the twin turbo one I gave the specs for. Cannot see anything about a 1000hp one, and only mention I found anywhere was of a factory supported aftermarket tuning package (again not on their web site).

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PostPosted: 22:56 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes, it isn't on their website. but they do do it. It's a typical American thing, just like the hi-po 455 trans ams, the 1le camaros, you have to go to them and ask for it. If they like you, they may let you have it. It is not something for every tom, dick and harry. The point is, there is a factory available car that will out accelerate a Veyron.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Err, where is any independent proof? And a factory special is hardly a reasonable comparison. Like saying the ZZR1400 is slow because a tuned 'busa can do 240.3mph (factory available, the factory being some Dutch guys garage).

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PostPosted: 23:05 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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For the 2005 model year, the engine was equipped with two turbochargers and power output was increased to 750 hp (559 kW). During the 2005 model year, a specially modified version of the twin-turbocharged S7 with 1000 hp (746 kW) became available.


It was available in 2005, may have stopped making it now, that quote is from fastestcar.net.

And the Veyron isn't a factory special? jesus christ, they've made like 25 of them.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
And how many have Saleen made? Bugatti are reported to be increasing production from 50 a year to 70 a year. And boosting power to 1250hp.

If they made a 1000hp version I expect it was a tuned example rather than a full road legal version.

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PostPosted: 23:13 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
From AUTO EXPRESS:

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The standard car has a 750bhp 7.0-litre twin-turbo V8, giving 0-60mph in less than three seconds and a top speed in excess of 240mph. But a new £46,500 option boosts output to 1,000bhp - so compared to the Veyron's virtually gold-plated £830,000 price, it represents a very reasonable high-performance bargain.

With the S7 weighing only 1,388kg, it should challenge the heavier Bugatti for its status as the world's fastest production car too. The four-wheel-drive Veyron can hit 252mph, but the uprated Saleen is said to be capable of nearly 260mph.

The good news for buyers is that the improved performance doesn't come at the expense of comfort, as the interior is lined in a mixture of leather and suede. Air-con is also standard, as is a custom-made fitted luggage set. And with 75 examples already having been delivered, it looks as though the sleek supercar is shifting into top gear and easing ahead in more ways than one.


When it comes down to it, the Veyron will always weigh 90,000,000 tons and be 4 wheel drive, neither of which is good for straightline speed or racing. Plus the fact that the S7 is a 2 valve pushrod V8, which lets face it, isn't the highest of technology, but there is a huge tuning base to work from, and if there is one thing the Americans know how to tune, it's a pushrod V8. If Bugatti uprate the Veyron to 1250 Horses, then Saleen will push the S7 motor further.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
lilredmachine wrote:
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For the 2005 model year, the engine was equipped with two turbochargers and power output was increased to 750 hp (559 kW). During the 2005 model year, a specially modified version of the twin-turbocharged S7 with 1000 hp (746 kW) became available.


It was available in 2005, may have stopped making it now, that quote is from fastestcar.net.

And the Veyron isn't a factory special? jesus christ, they've made like 25 of them.


You are wasting your time, kickstart can never be wrong.

Not even when he contradicts himself 3 times in the same thread (happen recently).

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lilredmachine wrote:
When it comes down to it, the Veyron will always weigh 90,000,000 tons and be 4 wheel drive, neither of which is good for straightline speed or racing.


It is heavy (weighs ~500kg more), but the 4wd will help with initial speed. And the difference is between is capable of 252 and said to be capable of 260.

lilredmachine wrote:
Plus the fact that the S7 is a 2 valve pushrod V8, which lets face it, isn't the highest of technology, but there is a huge tuning base to work from, and if there is one thing the Americans know how to tune, it's a pushrod V8. If Bugatti uprate the Veyron to 1250 Horses, then Saleen will push the S7 motor further.


Quite probably true, although Saleen claim it is there own design of engine. So how much tuning knowledge can be carried over to it from other engines is a difficult point to know.

And Hotdog, come back when you have learnt to read and manage not to selectively quote to change meanings. Until then you are irrelevant.

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PostPosted: 23:37 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Until then you are irrelevant


Laughing

Well said, quite funny too. I don't mind being backed up, but rather it was by actual figures on the subject rather than personal slander.

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It is heavy (weighs ~500kg more), but the 4wd will help with initial speed. And the difference is between is capable of 252 and said to be capable of 260.


Yes, the 4 wheel drive is good for getting off the line (though the initial weight disadvantage brought by it maybe blunts that advantage) however most drag cars are rear wheel drive, and the Saleen 750 Horsepower version has posted a 1/4 mile time of 10.7 seconds (confirmed by several magazine tests) which is actually 1/10th faster than Bugatti claims for the Veyron. Whether or not the extra 250 horsepower actually gives any more to initial acceleration or just to tyre melting remains to be seen.

Plus the fact that the Saleen is designed to produce it's power on just 91 octane. No doubt the Bugatti is designed for high spec 95+ fuel.
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True, will be interesting to see. Suspect with 750hp it is quite capable of spinning the wheels on demand, let alone the tuned version.

Wonder how much money VW are loosing on the Veyron (appears to just be corporate willy waving to me).

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Wasn't it nearly 4 million a car? in which case, there is a certain 'look at how much money we an afford to loose' feel about the whole issue.

Not to mention the unnecessary lengths that have been gone to just to create 1000hp. It's like a rolling trivia book.
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Totally agree. Not sure on the figure (and it will largly depend on what development costs they assign to each unit they build).

To be honest I have a feeling that VW are not as financially sound as people think. Wasted too much money on things like the Veyron, buying Lamborghini, buying Bentley, etc.

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PostPosted: 23:52 - 29 Jun 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
lilredmachine wrote:
I don't mind being backed up, but rather it was by actual figures on the subject rather than personal slander.


That is in itself slanderous.

I quoted keith directly, as I said, he just can't be wrong.

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Is just pure bullshit.

Why not go and read the thread for yourself ?

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I really hope they don't go under, they would drag a large number of top car marques down with them if they did. I also hope GM pull through this recent downturn, there's still some mighty good cars to come from those factories.
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lilredmachine wrote:
I really hope they don't go under, they would drag a large number of top car marques down with them if they did. I also hope GM pull through this recent downturn, there's still some mighty good cars to come from those factories.


Not sure VW will go under. Way too many interested parties. Just suspect that financially they are probably no better off than Fiat.

As to GM there main problem is way too generous employee packages over the years. Not sure how they can get out of that. But again they are big.

Fiat stiching GM up badly probably didn't help, although GM came out of it with some modern diesel technology that they would otherwise be lacking.

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