Clutchless Gear Change?

[ColdInsomnia]

I read about doing this on a website before. I can't remember where.

Either way - instead of using the clutch to go up a gear, it advised just letting off the throttle and then changing gear without even touching the clutch.

Anyway, I've been trying it today and whilst it is a lot faster, and seems to keep the engine revs a little higher when moving up a gear, the bike does "jump" a little (as you might expect) when you do it. On a faster bike I suppose it might even jump a little more.

What's the point? Well the website said that it helps to lower wear and tear on the clutch... which I guess is true... but what's your opinion?


Do you use the clutch when moving up a gear? Why (not)?
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[veeeffarr]

Sometimes I don't, but my bike (CG125) doesn't really like clutchless changing.

[MementoMori]

Generally I don't use the clutch changing up cos I'm lazy or if it's safe, fiddling around with something with my other hand.

No, not that.

I've heard about this jump and I don't seem to get it when I do it.

Hmm.
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[McGee]

I slightly depress it with one finger.

Pull Shift Release works fine for me and allows for some really quick shifts
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[killa]

I do clutch less changes if I am having a scratch or something, it doesn’t make my bike jump and I’m on a ZX7R.
If done properly you should jolt the bike, and you loose less rpm when doing it.
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[0ddball]

Not really worth doing unless you absolutely need to get from point A to point B as fast as possible (ie racing). But most of us still do it.

It can be useful on low powered bikes with a narrow powerband when going uphill. If you use the clutch slowly and smoothly the revs can drop too much and the engine bogs down.

Imo (based solely on common sense, not fact) both the clutch and gearbox will wear quicker then with nice smooth clutched changes. I do it on mine occasionaly, both up and down the box but i'd be weary of doing it too much on a bike with a weak box such as some Yamaha's.

[veeeffarr]

I just think clutches are there for a reason...

[ncrn]

i do clutchless gear changing from 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th usually, just because it saves me having to worry about the clutch, as long as i smoothly run up to 9k revs i just let go of the throttle and kick, and i go again, no problems

i dont like changing down without the clutch though, i tend to lock up the back wheel :/

[Dom_]

[ncrn]

[Johnny GSX-R]

Rarely use it going up the box from 3rd onward as its smoother, far better not using it if i'm 2 up.
I always always use it going down a gear.

Once you have learnt to ride smooth you'll be quicker, less clunky and less tired by using clutchless changes.

Anyone who doesn't believe me can ride pillion with me and i'll show you, it will feel as smooth as an automatic.

[Mozzer]

I'll take you up on that offer.

[Johnny GSX-R]

[TOM M]

[edd]

[_Will_]

I found out how to perfect it..........but only because my clutch was completeley buggered, it couldnt get booked into the garage for 2 days and it was me only form of transport
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[JonT]

I love my clutchless up shifts, very easy on the SV650 once I finally put some oil in