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Big_Brother · Derestricted Danger Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Karma :

I searched for this here, but couldnt find it here, so i thought i can ask kind people to tell me Smile

I posted before 2 days about how to get started, so im super newbie, but since i am really going through this next week, i wonder about two things,

1- I have 1, 700 pounds, are they enough to get a ZXR, Gixr, or a CBR over year of 2000 ?

2- The most important is , can i ride a hight performance bike just after getting my license ? lets say gixr 1000 ??

[EDIT], how many of you started riding a sport bike as a first bike, ever ?

Thanks in advance Smile

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Rit · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Karma :

Hi,

You prolly need to watch a few on Ebay or look on auto trader https://www.autotrader.co.uk/BIKES/ buy a AD Mag/Loot paper to get some ideas on prices but I guess others in the know will post.

You didn't say how old you are of if you actually have passed your test yet.

The two main routes (age permiting) are passing on a 125 or doing a DAS course

Both will allow you to ride any bike but only the DAS option will allow you to ride any bike unrestricted. Taking your test on a 125 means you have to restrict your new bike (33hp) for 2 years. Theres a big sticky thread that explains all this better than I can in newbies.

Depending on age you will definitely need to budget for insurance as this may cost the same price as your bike.
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Big_Brother · Derestricted Danger Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Karma :

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Rit · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Karma :

Phone around because a large sports bike will put a bit of a hole in ya budget. Benetts will give you a quote as if you have passed, some companies wont until you have passed (strange) As a new rider with no NCB it wont be cheap at 1st.
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

I'm with G, a litre bike isn't going to be the best first choice.

£1700? That'll get you an A1p or J model zx6r in reasonable condition. Could get you a 2000ish R6 but i'm not sure what condition. The sports 600s should be well within reach given that budget, but have you budgeted for insurance, leathers, helmet, gloves, boots etc...?

Jack
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APNess · Trackday Trickster Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Karma :

I bough a litre bike as my first bike (last week) and have racked up a few hundred miles, a couple more tommorrow.

Depends how 'rideable' the bike is - Thunderace (145hp) is easy to ride below 6-7k rpm - very smooth and quite torquey. Over that it takes off and you hang on for dear life!

If you are disciplined and can ride in the 'easy zone' of the bike I don't see any problem in getting a litre bike as your first. Insurance may help you decide against something that fast though any bike can get you into trouble if you ride beyond your ability.

I pick and choose my moments to use the 'power area' of the revs. 5 times so far since I've had the bike. Most of the time I just potter about (although 6k in top sees 100mph).

Whatever you get, just be careful till you can 'properly ride' - passing test gets you a piece of paper, only time and experience can make you a good rider (and I have neither at the moment, hence the needing discipline on a 1002cc machine).

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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

No idea about insurance, get yourself some quotes. If you're on a budget, helmets can be had for £50, gloves for about £20, as for boots, a pair of old steeltoes should suffice. Full leathers can be had for £150 plus p&p, budgeting 300 for gear should alow you to get most of your stuff, if not all of it.

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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

I crashed in steeltoes, the ankle support prevented me from receiving a broken ankle, the instep support prevented a broken foot, and the abrasion resistance of the steel meant i didn't lose my toes. Having crashed in them, and seen the mythbusters investigation i can honestly say steel toe capped boots will not sever your toes, and offer adequate protection for those on a budget Thumbs Up

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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

you can get a 2001 tt600 for about £1700

i think its possible to ride a litre bike responsibly. I tried a 98 r1 and never took it faster than 80mph (some people hate hearing about it again). Its actually easier to ride slowly than a 600, as it has so much low down torque.

Even if I had got it, I dont think I would have turned into a speed freak.

litre bikes seem to be in much better condition than most similar 600's so if i hadnt got the tt600, i would have got the r1 and just ridden it slowly. The srad 600 and r6 i tried were the same price and a bit knackered.

The only thing is that at 80mph and below, you can rev a 600 but you cant really rev a litre bike as much so its a different feel. Its nice to rev a bike a bit.

A litre bike is easier to ride slowly, but harder to ride fast as you have to be more careful.
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Sephiroth · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Karma :

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Then came the '98 R1.

stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

Maybe im being cynical again, but if a new guy comes out asking about GSXR tho's and litre bikes, and can they get a y2k ZX7R for 1700 notes: how much do they know about bikes in the first place, and secondly by the time of booking my test/ DAS etc, i would like to think most people would have some idea of what they want to buy, if not an exact bike then a size, type, and style they want.

Anyone who asks about a GSXR1000 for their first bike, maybe wants to ask themselves what their reason for doing their bike test is in the first place. I'd hate to think that even if a person could afford a Litre class sportsbike as their first machine, that they would be one of these number and size obsessed people that you see down the pub, that has the biggest cc bike/ most powerful car/ loudest most expensive stereo etc?

If i could not ride a modestly powerful bike reasonably well, then id have no interest in a 1litre machine at all!

And Colin, i know what you mean about a smaller revvier 600cc sportsbike's rev range being a little more accessible in normal road riding. I suppose i , and some people like a big torquey engine, that won't need hardly any revving, to go too quickly, and is lazy enough to make you always have a choice of gears to use, in any situation. Of course wether this is the right or best controled way to ride a bike is another matter entirely!

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Zimbo · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Karma :

I know a chap who was left looking after a friend's gixxer thou when the friend went on holiday. This chap had only recently done his DAS.
The inevitable happened, wondered what the bike was like to ride, tried it out on a quiet road. Pass one, took carefully, was absolutely blown away by the power and acceleration. Pass two, less carefully, even more blown away. Pass three, negotiated a slight bend in second and opened the throttle, doesn't even remember what happened, it went sky grass sky grass sky grass smash, and he had to tell his mate when he got back from holiday that his bike was trashed.
I'd stick to a 600 max for at least six months to a year, then consider your options.

Big_Brother · Derestricted Danger Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Karma :

Yeah zimbo, thats what im trying to do Very Happy

, someone told me to get SV650s as starter, is it a good option ?? and is it easy to sell after getting experiance on it ?

cheers

THCi · Nearly there... Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

Should be, an SV is a starters bike, mainly because of its accesability. Selling one shouldnt be too dificult. Thumbs Up

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