Anyone on here in the TA?

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[WildGoose]

its amazing how much shit people talk, funny how everyone is a military expect these days, just because people are dying over there and you can read about it every day in the papers

my advice would be to ignore anything you read on armed forces websites, and ignore anything positive you are told by anyone remotely related to recruiting

or to be safe, anyone ranked sergeant (or equivalent) or above, who isnt trying his hardest to get out of the armed forces, or waiting on his redundancy offer

i wouldnt pay much attention to anyone with an officer cap badge either, as although they might be very well informed and switched on people, ultimately their world is, and always will be, a different one from yours, not to say they dont die as well in shot down helicopters and the like but the percentage compared to enlisted is low

it is not a good time to be getting involved with the armed forces, we are fighting, and gaining nothing, in two unpopular campaigns. its a total waste of life.

there is no such thing as fighting for your country anymore, and if there was, i dont really think there is much worth fighting for

and you can be damn sure, you wont be rewarded like you used to be, there are no benefits, because there is no money. full stop.

and be under no illusions despite what anyone might tell you, once they have you, they wont be letting go of you easily
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[21chappers]

well i was going into the regular army and was going to start my basic training on the 20th feb this year. got down to pirbright where i was meant to start my basic training and was told after the medical that i could not start my training, the reason was.......... i didnt weigh enough which even my NCO thought was pretty ridiculous.

as i got to talk to a lot of people in their training it seems that you have to try it to see if you like it or not.

now im not thinking too much of going back and have thought about joining the TA after talking to a mate who's in it so its always down to own personal choice on whether you like it or not

[JpWard]

[craigie b]

I bet your in the TA and work recruitment, thats why your being vague and secretive BTW everything I wrote is well documented so if you would be as kind as to point out how its wrong I would be very grateful.

[JpWard]

[craigie b]

[21chappers]

well everyone who is in the TA or the army, their first role is as a soldier no matter what trade you do, the next role is then your trade whether it be a bricklayer or an accountant

[craigie b]

[21chappers]

well as soon as you've passed basic training whether it be 14 weeks for the army and however long it is for the TA, you achieve the rank of private making you a soldier then you do the training for your trade then

[craigie b]

And as I said, without your CIC qualification you are not a qualified soldier, yet we have guys out there doing their trade without the nessecary training.

[21chappers]

well if they hadnt finished their training then they must have joined when the war was already started so they must have known what they would get themselves in if they were sent there, but they wont be sent there without finishing their training and having some experience in england.

the army are already low on funds as they arent getting enough people to apply and without finishing peoples training they would get sued reducing the army's money.

well thats one of the reasons i was discharged

[craigie b]

So they wouldn't be sent under qualified?

https://www.channel4.com/news/2004/10/week_4/22_ta.html

[21chappers]

still doesnt mean that they will be sent to the front lines. they may just be re-supplying ships at the docks or something slightly less hazardous like that

[craigie b]

Well that article in particular is about a LC accidentally discharging his rifle into his friends chest, so I guess you don't need to be at the front line of the army to be killed through lack of training.

The men in question were both drivers in Basra, which is hairy enough for someone with proper training let alone inadequate training.

[21chappers]

well thats from being pretty rediculous i think bein as in the first week of basic i was shown how you maintain your gun and the SAFETY switch on it

[craigie b]

And there in lies the problem, you got full time basic training. These guys are doing a career job then training 2 days every fortnight, so its understandable that they are not going to be as well trained as a regular.

Anyway, my point was and is that at present the TA is sending people who are not qualified to be in a war zone to a war zone. I personally do not think this is the armies fault as it is being stretched ridiculously thin. I blame the current government.

[JpWard]

[craigie b]

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[JpWard]

Actually i was refering to Gun as that something with a barrel off 105mm and over

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[craigie b]

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