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PostPosted: 11:10 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Honda Deauville- What are they like? Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I currently have a ER-5 and I want to change it at the end of the summer.
I am soon starting a new job, where i will be riding every day to work (about 10 miles).
I want a comfy bike, which could do touring, but mainly for commuting and general riding around.
I have been looking at a Honda Deauville, I know they are not an exciting bike, but has anyone owned one, what are they like to live with? any good/ bad points?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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PostPosted: 11:24 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most hideous looking bike ever to come out of Honda's factory, although thats my opinion. Saying that though there probably a good bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have one.

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PostPosted: 11:31 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As luck would have it I've just read a review of the Deauville in Motorcycle Sport and Leisure (July 2006 copy) - magazine site here with the start of the article. See if you can get a copy, it's a quite favorable review.

Basically says it's a bike built to get you from A to B. Does it in comfort and with the newer 680cc engine a bit quicker. It's Honda so reliable but as you say, not exciting (whatever that may mean).

I also looked into getting the older 650 model for commuting to work. Came to the same conclusion that it would do that job plus allow me to tour in a bit of comfort. I fully accept that it wouldn't set my world on fire but then because of a bad back I can't make full use the head down, arse up sports machines anyhow.

One point to note if fitting aftermarket lower fairings. If you drop the bike they'll more than likely break as the tipover crashbar wings don't stop them being crushed (unlike a Pan).

You are aware the pannier's aren't removable aren't you? If you want to tour then the bigger pannier lids are advisable. Also I'm told larger ones needed for work commuting with laptop, etc. Depending on your size you might also prefer a taller screen. Many 2nd hand older models may already have these mods.

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PostPosted: 11:51 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deauville a.k.a. Dullville. Says it all, really.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Deauville a.k.a. Dullville. Says it all, really.

Why? Have you ridden one? Remember the original was launched to magazine reviewers who usually ride the latest 600 race reps. It was actually launched at the same time as the then new Hornet 600. The Hornet was taken round a race track, the Deauville was taken on roads. So I guess it confused the journalists not being used to riding different styles of bike.

All bikes are designed to do a job, from reading reviews of those actually riding the Deauville it appears to do what they want rather well.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride the older version the NTV650 , and I have ridden the NT650V , the extra lard the faired one doesn't seem to carry too well (the fairings add another 30 kilos) , though I did like the extra front disc, though that was more to do with my worn pads,

its designed to do a job - commuter /cheap cop bike / blood delivery vehicle/ courier machine , and does it well and does not advertise to be anything else , until Jannie Obramngie rides it , she can get the hero blobs worn right down on that thing.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are like a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng snooze.

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, having said what i have, i feel its probably ideal for you want it for. You get good luggage space and easy filtering which makes commuting a doddle.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for the opinions everyone! especially for the links- very useful.
Varying opinions really, but it seems to be suited to what I would want to use it for. Next stop- test ride!

Jim Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bottom line is they have built in panniers, large protective faring and are very comfy. Whilst not 'fast', they are not slow either and will still beat just about any normal car on the road and have a top speed of well over the ton.

They are well built with stainless downpipes etc. Add that to the shaft drive, and a whole host of other accessaries available and I honestly can't think of a better commuter/small tourer. In fact all you would need as an extra would be heated grips... although the speaker/radio/amplifier kit looks interesting Smile

The latest injection 700cc one kicks out 65hp and weighs 236kg. This on paper would appear to give the bike similar performance to an ER-5... BUT, Remember it's a V-twin so look at the torque figure - to get a comparable V-twin/IL4 figure horse power figure add 20 to the V-twins hp output. A good example of this is to use my bike verses the new GSR600. The SV kicks out 70hp, the GSR 90. Both have a top speed of 135mph, both have similar accelleration, one's 20hp down though Wink

So in reality the Dueaville has the eqivilent power of an 85 horsepower IL4 so you are looking at slightly underpowered (because of weight) fazer territory. Still that's good enough to blast you around in comfort in the fast lane with additional horse's to spare Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Why? Have you ridden one?
All bikes are designed to do a job, from reading reviews of those actually riding the Deauville it appears to do what they want rather well.


I considered getting one for a commuting hack - till I realised I was already riding my commuting hack...
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

my wife wont come on the back of my storm and i am considering a dullville as a potterer abouter.

good bikes for what they do.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
The bottom line is they have built in panniers, large protective faring and are very comfy. Whilst not 'fast', they are not slow either and will still beat just about any normal car on the road and have a top speed of well over the ton.

They are well built with stainless downpipes etc. Add that to the shaft drive, and a whole host of other accessaries available and I honestly can't think of a better commuter/small tourer. In fact all you would need as an extra would be heated grips... although the speaker/radio/amplifier kit looks interesting Smile

The latest injection 700cc one kicks out 65hp and weighs 236kg. This on paper would appear to give the bike similar performance to an ER-5... BUT, Remember it's a V-twin so look at the torque figure - to get a comparable V-twin/IL4 figure horse power figure add 20 to the V-twins hp output. A good example of this is to use my bike verses the new GSR600. The SV kicks out 70hp, the GSR 90. Both have a top speed of 135mph, both have similar accelleration, one's 20hp down though Wink

So in reality the Dueaville has the eqivilent power of an 85 horsepower IL4 so you are looking at slightly underpowered (because of weight) fazer territory. Still that's good enough to blast you around in comfort in the fast lane with additional horse's to spare Thumbs Up


Thanks, thats very helpful. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:52 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

More of a commuting bike than a touring bike.

Sit's at 70-80 mph quite nicely, 90-100mph isn't so nice on it. So good for the odd tour but get a Pan or similar if touring's your thing. Nice and comfy for rider and pillion, panniers hold enough as standard though not a great deal. Reasonably quick as well, to the point I could easily put my hand out and touch the ground when cornering on the back of my Dad's bike, and I have relatively short arm's.

My Dad likes the position as it suit's his aging back.

Bit akward for Pillion's to get on and off but once on it's comfier than a car. Although due to the panniers the pillion has to sit with penguin feet when in traffic as the rider's feet hit you.

Servicing is easy and the bike goes on forever, part's will be easy to get hold of as well.

For a commuting/occasional touring bike it's perfect, though not particularly exciting, but how exciting do you need a commuter/tourer to be?

Edit: 110mph is your realistic top speed, and acceleration will be noticeably slower than your ER-5. Although it will also be alot smoother. Also only has an 8000rpm rev limit (or thereabout's).
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:

Edit: 110mph is your realistic top speed, and acceleration will be noticeably slower than your ER-5. Although it will also be alot smoother. Also only has an 8000rpm rev limit (or thereabout's).


9K is the red line and I've taken my older one to 117mph with 1000 RPM left , just couldn't hold on , but then its a question of its heavier but has 30CC more and better aerodynamics than the old one, I reckon it did go that fast too cus an NC30 who I was chasing was hitting 115mph and I was catching up ever ever so slowly
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard that Deauvilles can vibrate a bit at about 85. Anyone else come across this?
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A, er, hmmm, sorry, what were we chatting about?
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lumphammer wrote:
Heard that Deauvilles can vibrate a bit at about 85. Anyone else come across this?


Really....thats handy then Laughing

They look comfy if you like to go touring, I expect they are nice bikes, at the end of the day mate its what you think and what you are happy with Smile
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

just go visit any honda dealer and ask for a test ride , there are at least 3 places in manchester where they have a demo bike , nothing quite like trying it out yourself as your own yardstick fits you best,

as a so so rider the older model fits me ok , the newer model not, but I only use it for the odd commute and weekend pooter.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:

Sit's at 70-80 mph quite nicely, 90-100mph isn't so nice on it. So good for the odd tour but get a Pan or similar if touring's your thing. Nice and comfy for rider and pillion, panniers hold enough as standard though not a great deal. Reasonably quick as well, to the point I could easily put my hand out and touch the ground when cornering on the back of my Dad's bike, and I have relatively short arm's.



The newer one's have bigger panniers which from what I gather was what a lot of owners of the older ones have been requesting for years! They have also had some restyling and a bigger engine (700cc) so acceleration is a lot better. Even so, 70-80 is it's target speed. The fact that it can do 110+ is just a power option that is there if needed for overtaking etc.

https://www.biketrollhattan.se/bike/gfx/temp/NT700V_06.jpg

Overall though it's the little things like a deeply padded seat, centre stand, two position screen, built in drop/crash protectors like the Pan, and decent mpg that make it the good commutor that it is...

oh and you've got to love the dash with just about anything that can be shown, measured or displayed, built in air ducts and speakers (as an option), just like the goldwing - it wouldn't look out of place in a car, let alone a mini tourer Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 23:13 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much the same as an NTV EXCEPT they are slower due to higher weight, don't like worn front tyres, hitting bumps on corners and don't handle anywhere nearly as well.

Big problem on them is foot space. My other half is quite tall for a woman and wears size 7 shoes and there is not enough space for them due to the panniers. Her toes stick into the back of my legs.

So if you regularly ride 2 up make sure you take the other half on the test ride.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one (2000 model), and a naked Hornet for the weekends. I do about 20,000 miles a year on the Deauville, mostly motorway miles commuting, with a few 200 miles trips to Plymouth as well, and it's fantastic for that sort of work. My other bike is for weekend blasts etc - horses for courses.

The Deauville's pretty good for filtering and the like (the front's wider than the back which is good).Probably for what you're looking to do it's overkill though, as your commute's so short (I do 45 miles each way daily, all weathers). It's happiest in traffic or on long straight roads, although it's not that bad on the twisties really, but the suspension's too soft for serious blasting. The soft suspension and comfy seat mean I can easily do 2 and a half hours in the saddle without even noticing.

Like has been mentioned before, if you take a pillion with big feet it's a bit awkward. Luggage capacity is good, as is fuel economy. You can buy bigger pannier lids if you like, and a topbox, although be careful when filtering then as your back will be wider than your front. If you're not the strongest person in the world you might find backing the bike in and out of spaces and u-turns a problem, as it's heavy (240kg I think). Shaft drive is a major bonus if it's a bike you're putting big miles on. Finish isn't brilliant, but it's purely cosmetic, very little breaks. They hold their value very well.

All in all it's a great bike for commuting, longer distances especially. If you're after a tourer/long distance commuter it's good, short commutes with some weekend scratching not so good. If this is what you're after, get something like a ER6-F, faired Bandit, faired Hornet or similar, which are lighter, and give enough wind/rain protection for short distances, and have a bit moe poke.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:


Is it just me, or is that collector saying "I'm gonna collect soo much crap and road salt in here that you'll be replacing rotted pipes more often than tyres."
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were designed with the courier/light tourer in mind on NTV650 underpinnings. If that's what you want, then knock yourself out.
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