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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: What are strange bunch of people! Reply with quote

Dont worry this is not a sob story about splitting up with my girlfriend, ive gone past the upset and angry stage, im now on the bewildered stage and thinking "What the fuck"

But anyway here we go.

Basically, she has been telling me for the past 5 days that she loves me so much and still wants to be with me or at the very least still be mates, fair enough.

And she was willing to give it one more shot just like me, this was wednesday, then this happens, she leaves a voicemail saying she cant text me, make another go of it or be my friend because ................... HER Dad will kick her out on the street if she texts me, gets back with me or even is friends with me Shocked

Now if id kicked the shit out of her, all through the relationship and verbally abused her then yeah id understand. All ive done for it to get to this stage right is

1. Have little insecure moments, im sorry but most young people have slight insecuritys, mine this time last year were really bad but since feb time, ive been fine.

2. Yeah i have made her cry a couple of times and we did have petty little arguments over nothing, about like not seeing eachother enough.

3. All i said for it to get to this stage is, i asked her why her family were looking at me like a piece of shit and not once in the whole 4 hours did they say anything other than " Hi" Neutral Question So she burst into tears again.

And then as i was leaving sister comes out and starts bawling at me and threatening get the shit kicked out of me for making her sister cry, now im sorry but im the type of person who if threatened will give it back.

So basically what im asking is, is this normal behaviour for her family to say to her if you get back with him you will be thrown out of our house, and the same if she's mates with me or texts me.

And is it worth trying to talk to her Dad face to face or Via letter? She keeps saying she loves me blah blah, but she cant go against her family because its disloyal? She's 18, and my family all through my life have advised me not to get back with someone, but at the end of the day, im 20 year old and i make my own choices.

Please dont take this as a sob story, just want to listen to people oppinions on what her family is doing to her.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hummmmm,

i see your dilema. is difficult. Confused

if she wants to be with yuo she should be with you. i am in the same situation at the mo. i got back with the ex and we havnt told our familes yet cause we think they be annoyed after all that happened. but we still dont care we see each other anyway.

i can understand her being loyal to her family but why would they want to keep her frmo being happy?
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know, thats the thing. I made mistakes, i upset her a fair few times ill admit that. But im 20 years old ive never had a relationship of longer than 6 months till now, ive had my slaggy days. And wanted something a bit more meaningful. She keeps sayin she cant go behind their back because their her family. And to me it seems like she doesnt love me and she's been lying. Because my idea of love, is you do anything to be wit someone you love. Id cross rivers, climb mountains, go to the ends of the earth and put my life on the line to be with her, but she says she cant.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: What are strange bunch of people! Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:

2. Yeah i have made her cry a couple of times


Speaking as the father of a 16 year-old, I would cut out the heart - with a rusty spoon - of anyone who did that to my daughter. All boyfriends are low-life scum.

So there.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first concern would be 'what the hel has said to them to mke them react like this?' Shocked

then considor....

Do you want to have anything to do with such a nut job family. Confused
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there some deep dark secret or something? why she all worried and not able to hve a relationship? Confused i dont get this family. like something out of a suspence horror.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was she a good lay?
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you be asking him for a copy of the tape next lol Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
you be asking him for a copy of the tape next lol Laughing


There's a tape?
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked oh dear i have said to much Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: What are strange bunch of people! Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
bwfc4eva86 wrote:

2. Yeah i have made her cry a couple of times


Speaking as the father of a 16 year-old, I would cut out the heart - with a rusty spoon - of anyone who did that to my daughter. All boyfriends are low-life scum.

So there.


You abviousley were'nt a boyfriend at any point then? I'm the father of a 16 year old boy, sorry, low life scum, I'll tell him to avoid 16 year old girls then Confused
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
is there some deep dark secret or something? why she all worried and not able to hve a relationship? Confused i dont get this family. like something out of a suspence horror.


Sounds to me like she's been saying things to her parents/sister/friends maybe for the sympathy vote which has now backfired...

It would probably cause an argument, but have you asked her EXACTLY what the hell she's been saying to people about you? What has she said and how did she react to your question?

Guilty
= Got angry, cried etc etc etc (emotions are usually a dead give-away)

Innocent = Was calm and responded normally.

Personally I think she needs to grow up, be an adult and set them all straight! (if she's been lying about you, which is probable)

Either that or as suggested in previous posts, You need to get a grip, forget her and move on!
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: What are strange bunch of people! Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
bwfc4eva86 wrote:

2. Yeah i have made her cry a couple of times


Speaking as the father of a 16 year-old, I would cut out the heart - with a rusty spoon - of anyone who did that to my daughter. All boyfriends are low-life scum.

So there.


Could you possibly be my ex's Dad? Confused
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 07 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women can be so....

Don't try and rationalise it, speak with the father face to face, man to man.

I recently split with mine due to the fact she decided to be a complete arse hole when my uncle was in an apsoloutely critical state and could have died/crippled physically and mentally after an accident at work.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple -

Parents hate your guts ,

They don't want you to see her, to give leverage to their position they threaten her with loss of home , to less independent people this is a nuclear weapon of threats.

To indies it means nothing,

The parents are either:

1 insecure and don't want to lose their daughter
2 hate your guts
3 are those meglomanic types who want utter control of their offspring
4 think she can do better cus in their eyes you are a bum.

or a combination of such things,






In a wider context I think you need to look at the bigger picture of things

You need to think about it for a while and think is she somebody in my future ? , can I see myself with her in 3 years time? , what does being with her do to my plans?

Plans are of course important , in that you have to consider which one carries the BIGGEST regret factor.

Losing a GF in this whole world is pocket change, get another plenty fish in the sea , losing your dreams because you delay or alter your plans say Aus, is a biggie.


my 2 cents? , walk away, unless YOU can act as a safety net, ie you can give her a home for a bit until she can get on her own feet and assert her independence

cus if you can't you'll be the super super bad guy make her lose her home , drive a wedge between her and her family and not have anywhere to stay.

note the song however "don't you want me baby" as people are generally users and there is a high probability that once she has asseted her independence its buh bye breeze , hello boys,
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Re: What are strange bunch of people! Reply with quote

bazza wrote:


Speaking as the father of a 16 year-old, I would cut out the heart - with a rusty spoon - of anyone who did that to my daughter. All boyfriends are low-life scum.

So there.


Agreed, even though I am not a father. If my Sister cried because someone had treated her wrong itd make me wanna ruin them! However it is this that can cause the problem, like if an ex who has been portrayed wrongly by the daughter then it could be her fault in the first place. So many places to look this isnt worth it! Let the daughter make her own mistakes.

However make sure these mistakes are educated and u lay the smackdown on any blokes who you feel are far to old for your daughter! Otherwise you will get on wrong for the whole time!

From how it sounds you have caused a problem for her and her family, do the honorable thing and leave it! If its meant to be you will meet a few years down the line, if not then job done, you have left her alone and she has lived her life!

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PostPosted: 03:35 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i should just move on, ive fought for all my worth this past week and all for nothing. I have made her cry, but she has also hurt me and made me cry, which does take some doing. But in both our eyes, the good times far exceeded the bad times. And arguments where due to outside factors, like her parents not making any effort to get to know me, i tried my best to have a conversation with them, and in 1 year and 5 months of being with her, i had one proper conversation with her parents, people like her sister interfereing etc.

I offered, if her parents actually did throw her out a room in mine, even if we were just friends, she'd be fine to live here. But she says that would be disloyal to her family.

Im all for Parents protecting their sons/daughters, but the end of the day, my Mum has give me her advice and that was she doesnt want me going anywhere near her, but she said its entirely up to me what i wanna do. Surely she should be given that same freedom to make her own choice in life? I mean telling her to stop texting and ringing me because its not showing loyality to them is in my eyes rather strange. I was thinking of writing a letter tonight or going to talk to her Dad, to tell him she wants to be with me, and admit i knew i had hurt her a few times and made her cry, but im young and inexperienced so its expected that i'll make mistakes. But now, i just need to get my independance back, start making myself number 1 prihority, spending time with my family, mates and persuing things ive not done before. I tried everything possible to make her see sense and that she should make her own descions but she says she cant due to her Dad.

So think its best to let her go, even tho she keeps ringing and texting me .
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

her parents have prob seen her in bit over you and her dad i trying to protect her. my dad be the same also but not as protective as he knows i am old enough and big enough to look after myself. she is 18 after all an adult now, but her parents wont see it that way.

most the crying she done would have been away from yuo in her parents view as most girls crying is. so imagine how her parents feel when she blurts out all the horrid things yuo have done and said to her. you may not think they been tht bad but in her eyes they will be. and most of all her parents eyes.

they see her as a niave teen that needs protecting and thats th wrong wy to go about stuff cause she will never lern that way. but thats up to the parents to relise that.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:

So think its best to let her go, even tho she keeps ringing and texting me .


on a PAYG cell phone? , get a new sim card , for the £2 they cost , its well worth it for the lack of agro
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well as somebodys already said on here now, if it really is meant to be things will work out on there own. But im not completely alone now that im with her, ive started meeting up with old mates from college who kinda took a back seat when i was with her. And its great to see the brilliant support im getting from them, and also thank you for all understanding and not just saying " Grow up "

The time has come to move on and past couple of days the pain has subsided and im starting to move on now. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

notes down the address of Ye golden lion for a rebound shag Wink
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, im trying to avoid that Blackely shit hole. Brings back memories that i need to get rid off.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:
Nah, im trying to avoid that Blackely shit hole. Brings back memories that i need to get rid off.


who said anything about YOU?
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 08 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have a job, she's a stubbourn little gett about sex, took me ages to get her into bed, 2 months! Usually either takes me between 4 hours or 2 weeks Laughing
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