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Trip
Brolly Dolly



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PostPosted: 17:25 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Clutchless Shifting? Reply with quote
Guys do you know what the examiners stance is on clutchless up / downshifting?

Would you get a mark for it or anything?

Its become quite a habit of mine and i was wondering when i take my test whether it would count against me?

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chris_recaro
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not really sure Confused but i'm a bit concerned that it can't do much good for the bike? Confused

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Trip
Brolly Dolly



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PostPosted: 17:33 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im on a CG they are bloody indestructible.

Plus i only do it when the revs are just right Thumbs Up
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chris_recaro
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it's un-noticable to someone following you i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem, not sure as too rules on that though to be honest Confused

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ncrn
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
just use the clutch for the test, its not gonna do you any harm, and decreases your chance for failing.
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instigator
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not sure he'd be able to tell you weren't using the clutch. Just as you're going to clutchless shift, hover your hand over the clutch lever - so he won't be able to tell Wink

Better make sure you're smooth at it though.
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Jebus
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I remember i did it a few times when i did my CBT, not because i wanted to just going to fast or moving me foot to much. downshifts its a good idea to use the clutch anyway without a quickshift kit or a slipper clutch then the bike will get upset. Clutchless upshifts are fine as long as you do them ok, they won't damage the bike. But for the test it depends dont try and outsmart him just use the clutch, he might fail you for not showing proper machine control or something.
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Steve - RS125
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jebus wrote:
downshifts its a good idea to use the clutch anyway without a quickshift kit or a slipper clutch then the bike will get upset.


Defonately second this comment - Its been known that you shift down with no clutch and you can sometimes lock up the rear end, if you get away without that happening then it will proberly give you a judder and completely feel like you should not have done it!!

Changing up a gear is no problems as its going with the flow of the engine so should pose no problem!! Thumbs Up
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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 14 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris_recaro wrote:
i'm a bit concerned that it can't do much good for the bike? Confused


Perfectly fine to do it on the upshifts.

A lot of people say it's not too good for the box on the way back down though.

I only clutchless upshift, and only when I'm really going for it Wink
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Trip
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 14 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im always really going for it, its a CG for gawds sakes Wink
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AcIdBuRnZ
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 14 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rich_simpkins wrote:
Im always really going for it, its a CG for gawds sakes Wink


Fair enough Laughing

If I clutchless change on the redline I'm doing over 120mph going into 3rd gear Laughing
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