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Trickypl4
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 10 Jul 2006    Post subject: Those 'cameras' on the top of traffic lights? Reply with quote

At least they look like cameras. They're facing either at the oncoming traffic or away from the oncoming traffic.

They look like little sort of cctv cameras. Are they actually cameras at all?

Either way, what do they do, what is their purpose? Confused

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PostPosted: 17:51 - 10 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm aware their just little "radar" devices to sense if theres any traffic waiting.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 10 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, don't worry about them, they're not speed cameras.

I used to worry about some cameras facing the traffic attatched to the bridges crossing the A66, so one day I took the plunge and sped past them... not speed cameras.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 10 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think they pick up on waiting traffic or possibly rleated to ambulances, i.e. they can get them to give them priority.. not sure though might be a load of pants.. (have read about some kind of emergency services green light system works off infrared somewhere??)
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 10 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok cheers Thumbs Up

Just driving through the lights at Heworth metro station along the felling bypass the other night (Gateshead for those who are interested - not many I would've thought Smile ) and I noticed them.

Although I've past them thousands of times I've never noticed them. Being a pedestrian all my life until last month Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be a Microwave Vehical Detector to monitor traffic flow at the juntion or if looks more like a Gatso there are Red Light Cameras that catch light jumpers

Look like this :

https://www.ukspeedcameras.co.uk/trafficlightcamera.jpg

[thanks to www.ukspeedcameras.co.uk for that one]
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the CCTV looking things are just cameras to sense the traffic, so they know when the change and when it's best to let pedestrians cross.

They're an alternative to inductive loops in the road, which are more widely used.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some crafty bugger has put those cameras up so he can get a good view of clevage! Shocked

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PostPosted: 16:35 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The traffic light mounted cameras are good, better than the inductive loops in the road. Mainly because unless your heavy and the bikes heavy the inductors wont pick you up.

Loads of lights on the way to work use inductors, and its a pain in the ar$e waiting for em to change!
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres some sort of camera at my local 'major' traffic lights, and I've seen it flash when cars go through red lights.....hmmmm its painted yellow aswell
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 12 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly combination gatzos/red light cameras. It look like the pic above?
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alec_h wrote:
Theres some sort of camera at my local 'major' traffic lights, and I've seen it flash when cars go through red lights.....hmmmm its painted yellow aswell

It'll be a red light camera - they're linked to an induction loop just past the stop line. Go past that on red (maybe they give you a fraction of a second's leeway?) and it'll flash you.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it doesn't look like the picture above, it's a fraction of the size. About the size of a cctv camera you'd get at your local convenience store.

Doesn't look to have any flash anywhere near it.

Even if it was a red light camera and it were to flash, what would be the penalty? Would it be a fine or a points on the licence job?
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always wondered what those things were.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're just presence cameras, they do the exact same job as the induction loops in the road. And, are no more benign. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trickypl4 wrote:
Even if it was a red light camera and it were to flash, what would be the penalty? Would it be a fine or a points on the licence job?

Like speeding, jumping a red light is 3 points and £60, I believe. Unlike speeding, however, insurance companies take a very dim view of it...
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

THCi wrote:
They're just presence cameras, they do the exact same job as the induction loops in the road. And, are no more benign. Thumbs Up


Query solved Thumbs Up

We have a barrier (rather like a large red/white barbers pole) at work which 'detects' cars waiting to leave the carpark and automatically lifts, but it doesn't work for motorbikes so maybe it's one of those loop things. One of the security guards said something about 'something under the paving' as well.

All sounds a bit 'fred west-ish' to me Shifty
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 14 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

THCi wrote:
The traffic light mounted cameras are good, better than the inductive loops in the road. Mainly because unless your heavy and the bikes heavy the inductors wont pick you up.

Loads of lights on the way to work use inductors, and its a pain in the ar$e waiting for em to change!


They ARE NOT triggered by weight, you could sit an elephant on them and they will not change...ever....Unless it is wearing steel underpants.

If the ones on the traffic lights are the ones I am thinking of they are not cameras, they are Infared transmitter/reciever. Depending on the aplication they are used for a few things. One of them is if a car goes through on red the sensor will pick it up and delay the other lights from going to green for a few seconds.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 14 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:


They ARE NOT triggered by weight, you could sit an elephant on them and they will not change...ever....Unless it is wearing steel underpants.



Care to explain, I know I am wrong, and willingly accept that, I think I understand what you are getting at, but not 100%.
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

inductive loops work due to principles of electromagnetism.

without getting technical, anything with iron in it (such as steel) will be detected by the loop

so aluminium framed bikes are less likely to be detected than steel ones

elephants will be invisible to the inductive loop as elephants do not have a high iron content
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 15 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
inductive loops work due to principles of electromagnetism.

without getting technical, anything with iron in it (such as steel) will be detected by the loop

so aluminium framed bikes are less likely to be detected than steel ones

elephants will be invisible to the inductive loop as elephants do not have a high iron content


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PostPosted: 00:52 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be honest i think its quite unlikely that anyone makes steel underpants, and even if they did, im not sure they come in elephant sizes Smile
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 16 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

tree1 wrote:
I used to worry about some cameras facing the traffic attatched to the bridges crossing the A66, so one day I took the plunge and sped past them... not speed cameras.


That's a very bizarre way to find out!
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