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Itchy
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: What do Japanese folks ride? Reply with quote

In Japan apparently its bloody hard to get a licence to ride anything over 400cc.

In the 1980s and 1990s we had a rash of little 400 super sports the Honda HRC NC range , Kwak 400s 250 2 smokes etc, generally fantastic small powerful corner attacking machines.

My question is this what has happened to all these 400s? , ie what do Japanese folks ride today? , do they just ride identical bikes to us but with sleeves put into the cylinders to reduce the CC ? , I keep finding smaller than normal CC bikes when going to oggle bikes , like a 400cc SV or a bandit 400 Fazer 400 etc and wonder about it.

any ideas

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe CB400s are still very popular.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

they drive Chinky-chento's
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the current fashion in Japan is bizarre, misproportioned and odd looking retro styled things Confused
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the laws changed, thats why you dont see new 400 imports.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram_doom wrote:
I believe the current fashion in Japan is bizarre, misproportioned and odd looking retro styled things Confused


Are you thinking about the "bosozoku" gangs? Ride wierd stuff like this:
https://k47.pbase.com/g3/99/278099/2/57506463.DSCN0033.jpg

I don't think that is representetive of the 'mainstream'. By all accounts, they are something of a growing problem though.
https://metropolis.co.jp/CarsBikesarchive349/317/pics/bosozoku2.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeebus.....and I thought my r1150gs was ugly...... Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


Are you thinking about the "bosozoku" gangs? Ride wierd stuff like this:

I don't think that is representetive of the 'mainstream'. By all accounts, they are something of a growing problem though.



Yeah stink Shocked dodgy bunch! Bit like a cross over of cafe racer and rocker lifestyle, thats been sort of skewed during the trip across the sea...
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
ram_doom wrote:
I believe the current fashion in Japan is bizarre, misproportioned and odd looking retro styled things Confused


Are you thinking about the "bosozoku" gangs? Ride wierd stuff like this:
https://k47.pbase.com/g3/99/278099/2/57506463.DSCN0033.jpg

I don't think that is representetive of the 'mainstream'. By all accounts, they are something of a growing problem though.
https://metropolis.co.jp/CarsBikesarchive349/317/pics/bosozoku2.jpg


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PostPosted: 23:35 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a program on TV about them a while ago as apart of the growning violence of teenagers in japan (going nuts from stressful life style etc), very violent group and alot of them are recruited in to the yakuza.
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so they are criminals yet they ride about on some of the wierdest eye catching, ugly bikes i have ever seen? They dont sound exactly stealthy.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the Yakuza???
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanese mafia.

Christ you never played grand theft auto? Wink
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PostPosted: 04:16 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the Japanese riding these days?




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The retro styling is strong here currently...shame as winter is cold here so I want a fairing to tuck in behind of.


Licences...Yep, getting a licence here for anything over 400cc is near impossible unless you're prepared to fork out a grand to attend a 'driving school' then you'll pass with flying colours! Mostly the cops don't take too much notice and often don't know the bike size anyway. The most popular bikes are the sub 250cc as they don't require shaken (kind of a strict and expensive MOT) and the sub 400cc class (requires shaken but the licence is not so difficult to obtain). Riding here is always a 'how lucky do I feel' kinda syndrome since the speed limits are so ridiculously low. The regular road max. limit is 60 Km/h (No, not at mistake), and the highways are 80 km/h but no one really pays any attention to them even though the fines for speeding are relatively expensive.

The 400s work so well here as we have a lot of mountain roads, that are fairly narrow and extremely twisty - perfect for the sports 400s!
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

kronjp wrote:

The 400s work so well here as we have a lot of mountain roads, that are fairly narrow and extremely twisty - perfect for the sports 400s!


Japanese are also alot smaller build so they work very well for smaller built people Wink

No offence is ment by this btw Mr. Green

I see Honda sell the CBR's but no GSXR Shocked

And the CB400 looks awesome Drooling
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOM M wrote:
Whats the Yakuza???

Dear God man, next you'll be asking who the Leone family are!!!

I love the Yakuza's cars in GTA:3 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
TOM M wrote:
Whats the Yakuza???

Dear God man, next you'll be asking who the Leone family are!!!

I love the Yakuza's cars in GTA:3 Very Happy


Who the hell is that? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

I know the other ones from GTA, used to kill them every day after school, arnt so big on my tv screen Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:
Jon B wrote:

Dear God man, next you'll be asking who the Leone family are!!!

I love the Yakuza's cars in GTA:3 Very Happy


Who the hell is that? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


Laughing I have a feeling Jon got it wrong and he actually meant Corleone, the family in The Godfather series.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:54 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here a few pics from when i was in Japan
(I cant be bothered to search for the others - it means trwaling through about 4000 photo's, i kid you not!)

They ride alot of modified VAN VAN-esque bikes as well. VAN VANS with clipons made me laugh!

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PostPosted: 20:59 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm I think my point was missed slightly , what I was mostly asking was what happened to bikes like NC30s and all of the super hot 400s? ,

an RVF400 is probably their take on our blade, so what is their take of our 1000cc bikes bearing in mind the licence structure?
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Kaben how does that cap work out ?
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Its pronounced Jixxer!
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From (the very broken explanation that a japanese guy gave me), they are vented caps that allow the exhaust fumes to exit out sideways, but stop the fumes/waves exiting straight out the back of the exhaust.
This makes the sound of the exhaust alot deeper.
Try holding your hand an inch or so behind your exhaust pipe whilst its idling and you wil hear the change in tone. Doing this makes my 125 sound alot throatier

These things essentially make it louder without knackereing the engine by still allowing free gas flow (or something like that!)

The guy tried to claim it increased power and fuel economy but i doubt that very much!

Thats my take on it anyway

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PostPosted: 23:01 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a good idea for a 125 Thinking Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 25 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
That sounds like a good idea for a 125 Thinking Mr. Green

indeed. mine sounds like a 2t when it's high revs in 5th, as i blaze along at around 65mph Cool

they look pretty cool too, surprising they've not caught on over here Confused
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