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killa
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Oh poo pants Reply with quote

Coming to work to day, was doing about 40 in a 30, no traffic.
Coming up to the lights I took a look in the mirrors, I looked forward to see the lights changing, but the timing was all off and I rolled through just as she hit the red.
There is a traffic light camera thing there, so what’s the deal, I was marginally over….

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PostPosted: 11:03 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silimar kind of deal to speed cameras I think, 14 days for the NIP to arrive.

If they did get you it's 3 points, but I *think* the lights have to have been red for a while before the cameras are activated. Could be wrong, and it all depends how 'marginally' you were over.

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PostPosted: 11:04 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have flasher units dont they? Did it flash?

My experience is that they are active before the red comes on (just before). I have also noticed that they dont often pick up bikes? Maybe not as sensitive as regular Gatso's.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say, 1 wholesome second over....
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have done that several time and wondered if i was to get caught but i aint got nothing in the post yet. Confused not on purpose mind you i glimpsed it red at cornor of eye as i was going through and pretended i didnt notice. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the same in a car and ended up with a £60 fine and 3 points on my licence. Keep you fingers crossed and hope it didn't pick up your bike.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

In general if I see a Traffic light camera i'll tend to get ready to stop incase they do go red. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do that also jon but this once there i was trying to keep up with someone.

i have never seenthe lights flash though liek a camara. we dont even have speed camaras here ffs.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they forward facing?
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Rookster, have you been driving on the wrong side of the road or something? Razz
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traffic light camera's are activated by sensors embedded into the road.

If you look carefully you'll see a rectangular strip about 1-2 metres in front and one half a metre past the white 'stop' line'. I suspect the have the same failings as the traffic lights that use the induction loop method and they sometimes have difficulty picking up bikes.

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PostPosted: 12:21 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I wouldn't want you to do anything naughty but...

was there what you suspected to be oil or a diesel spill at the lights? (you may want to log a phone call to the council).
and if so wouldn't it have been unsafe for you to brake suddenly?

Just supposing there was mind you Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you know you've been caught(I know you don't mate), i'e you see tha flash etc etc etc, get yourself down the nearest police station and tell them, ask what you can do etc etc etc and they will offer you a driver improvment day thing, instead of the points.
yeah you have to pay for the training, but no points.
I know for a fact this worked last year, no sure if they have changed anything since then.

As for killa's question, depends what sort of camera it was.
Hope nothing comes through mate.
I always thought they armed a second or two after the red came on.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Now I wouldn't want you to do anything naughty but...

was there what you suspected to be oil or a diesel spill at the lights? (you may want to log a phone call to the council).
and if so wouldn't it have been unsafe for you to brake suddenly?

Just supposing there was mind you Wink Very Happy


And if there wasn't, go sort it out Wink.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was on the internet so it must be true:


Traffic Light Speed Cameras
Traffic light cameras are triggered either by using ground loops that are cut into road surface or radar technology. When using loops, as the traffic lights turn red the system becomes active, any vehicle passing over the sensor in the road after this time is then photographed. Radar based traffic light cameras work in the same manner as fixed Gatso speed cameras.

A news story that appeared in the Daily Mail newspaper reported that the Home Office plan to turn over 1,000 traffic light cameras into speed cameras. "More than 1,000 traffic-cameras used to catch drivers jumping red lights are to converted so they can also trap speeders".

The traffic light camera was originally used to measure red light offences. Nowadays the camera can also be used in combination with speed measurement, similar to that of a Gatso speed camera. So you could end with a speeding offence as well as a traffic light offence, if you go through a red light camera!

Points and Penalties

Being prosecuted in the UK by a traffic light camera can result in a minimum of 3 penalty points and a £60 fine. This fine amount is currently under review by the government and may increase in near future.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they use the same thing as the traffic lights that don't change for bikes then I'm sure you'll be fine Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about turning them into speed cameras. That would really fcuk your license up, 3+ points for the red, 3+ for opening the throttle to try and beat the aforementioned red.

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PostPosted: 13:28 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have got away with exactly this offence as there was a car that was tailgating me and I couldn't brake hard, officer. Seriously, admit it and give mitigating circumstances, could save your arse.

Cheers

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PostPosted: 14:13 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as i know there aren't any of these traffic light cameras in Lincolnshire yet, i only see them when i go to Nottingham where they're everywherem, so i'm reading this thread with interest
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the lights have to have been red for a while before the cameras are activated

Nope not as far as I know.
Partner going to work the lights went amber just as she went through and got 60 quid fine 3 points.It was amber for a split second, not even red.
Thos things are sly gits!
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been through them many times, as have my friends, even gone through one at 3Am, as i was sat there for 3 mins, dont think it picked the bike up, so i just slowly went through (could see round the corner so it was 'safe')

I guess there different for different areas.


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PostPosted: 18:07 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

they flash though same as a gatso

you would have noticed it.


i have seen someone go through one near me.

and it had been on for red for less than a second when it flashed

he had been waiting behind a car that was turning right and as he set off it flashed.

there was bugger all he could of done which is unfair.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard that if the light is just changing red and you go through it over the speed limit they won't get ya
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

just say you didnt go over the lights - simple as that - challenge it!!!
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 26 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dumpsta wrote:
i heard that if the light is just changing red and you go through it over the speed limit they won't get ya

As far as I know, they'll get you for speeding and the red light running.

I would expect it's quite easy to miss a gatso flash behind you if it was bright sunlight as we've been having.


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