beach riding?

zenith10 · Nova Slayer Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Karma :

is it true that you can legally ride a motorbike along the footpath on beaches? or have i gone mad, last time i went on holiday in the uk i seen a few motorbikes along the beach front

byke95 · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Karma :

Not possible in Bournemouth/Poole: you can't even ride a bicycle between the hours of 10am and 7pm during the summer months!

Misc · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

probably just parking up?

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

There is a very old law that allows you to use the foreshore (between the high and low tide marks) for pretty much anything you want.

The foreshore is actualy crown property and the people of the UK were given the right to use it, I think it comes under the Bill of Rights or somesuch. You are allowed to hunt and fish there too.

It is getting the bike onto the foreshore in the first place that poses the difficulty with regard to local council byelaws.

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Some species of seagull are protected under national law. You would need to know which and be able to identify them.... Although why you would want to hunt seagulls is beyond me.

Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

seagulls are vengeful!,

a girl on her Cb600 hit one while it was taking off , and it laid stunned for a few seconds ,

the next few days we got covered in bird shit.
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MRX Steve · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Karma :

You could probably get away with it on empty beaches that are rarely used, but most beaches say on the sign that you cant ride on the beach and there is a large fine if you are caught. But to be honest you wouldn’t really want to as you will have to strip your bike down after to get all the sand out
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doggone · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

There may be local bye-laws to expressly forbid it.
For example the beach at Whitby you may not take dogs on it between 1 April and 30 Sept (guess why).

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

As I am always pointing out to people. I could put up a sign saying everyone has to give stinkwheel a fiver but it doesn't make it true.

A council by-law cannot superceed national law. Abredeenshire council found this to their cost when they had to repay thousands of pounds of fines for 'illegal' bait digging.

It wasn't the bill of rights. Public rights to use the foreshore for 'navigation and fisheries' were granted under the Magna Carta, recreational use is implied but not specified (and they have had nearly 800 years in which to raise an objection). The foreshore actually belongs to the crown (with some exceptions of land that was ceeded prior to 1215 AD) and is leased to local councils.

So, vehicular use is not specifically allowed under the Magna Carta but it is not disallowed. As far as I know, noone has actually legally challenged a council byelaw under this. I suspect they would drop any prosecution like a hot potato if you implied you were going to challenge it under your common rights in the Magna Carta because they don't want a prescedent to be set.

There is also the fairly major point of how the hell are the council going to catch you to issue such a fine?

it really is that quick · Crazy Courier Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Karma :

can legally ride or drive on pendine beach in wales.

just make sure you get back to tarmac before the tide comes in Shocked

used to go there for holidays and you'd usually see some poor unfortunate trying desparately to get the car started as the waves lapped at the hub caps Twisted Evil

really flat sandybeach tide goes out for about 1/2 a mile Thumbs Up

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have you seen the racing at Weston-super-Mare, now that's wicked, especially at the very first dune at the start of the race...?
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plugger147 · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Karma :

So as long as your bike gets brought in by boat then you can't do it. Laughing

P.s where do I send the fiver to stinky. Laughing

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Aye, they can supercede it by act of parliment. My point was, you can't make a council bye law that directly contradicts a right given under national law (well, you can, but it is unlikely to stand up to legal testing).

It would be like my local council passing a byelaw stating that only people aged 30 and over are allowed to drive on the town high street subject to a fine of £50. They could sit and dish out fines all day long providing people paid them, as soon as someone challenged it, the law would collapse.

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robbie_dt · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Karma :

i've rode my DT on the beach about 20 times and one time when there was cops at there they did nothing i was wheeling it along the beach there was people about but i had kept my distance!
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