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coolfox1
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: planning application any planners on or tips getting perms Reply with quote

I want to try to get planning permission to put a bedroom on top of my garage and also make my garage a bit bigger so my bike doesnt have to live squeezed between bags of sand !!!!

Have sent some details to the neighbours to test the water but next door isn't happy as she says our houses that are link detached will look like terraces.

Just wondered if any one know is this a valid ground for rejection ?

Also any one know any tips for getting planning permission granted ?

Not sure if I should maybe submit one ott plan, let them complain and reject it then submit the one I want and maybe they will let it go, didn't know if this was something that happens a lot ?

Cheers all

Ian
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because people object does not mean the council will refuse it. They will look into the regulations regarding positioning of the proposed extension and how it will affect neighbouring properties.

We had some arsey neighbours even take a trip to the Town Hall to view the plans, to see if they could find reason to object. They could have course just walked 20 metres down the road Rolling Eyes

Don't worry, if the plans are fine and it doesn't break legislation anywhere they can't really object.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:
Just because people object does not mean the council will refuse it. They will look into the regulations regarding positioning of the proposed extension and how it will affect neighbouring properties.

We had some arsey neighbours even take a trip to the Town Hall to view the plans, to see if they could find reason to object. They could have course just walked 20 metres down the road Rolling Eyes

Don't worry, if the plans are fine and it doesn't break legislation anywhere they can't really object.


cheers, I've been hunting for a list of things that are valid objections, she's talking about loss of value to her house but wasn't sure if this was a valid reason.

I've purposely done the extension so it doesn't affect next door and they cant even see it from their house. Don't think it would break any legislation, certainly not any building regs.

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PostPosted: 21:05 - 23 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

loss of value is just NIMBYism hate that,

what are valid complaints (after fighting a battle with a mate who had seriously buttered up the council):

losing light , ie you can't build so close to their existing windows and sky lights to block out light , this applies to a semi lesser extent to gardens too.

losing privacy ie you can't have a window over looking various things, or into peoples windows (applies slightly to garden too)

fire hazard (too close = fire spreads)

breach of fire regs (design ie you can't escape from such a room
easily in a fire)

breach of space allowed in the planning apps

breach of materials used (in some protected areas).

also think about how it will be built, some people won't let you put scaffolds in ginnells and makes life hard for builders
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
...what are valid complaints....

You also need to consider the changes to the frontage. You cannot extend beyond what is already there. I believe you also cannot extent above the current roofline. FWIW extending backwards is ok, bearing in mind what Ichy has said about light etc. above. You also cannot extend beyond a certain % of the original space of the house. So if you put an extension on the side it may limit any other extension to the rear (but I believe conservatories are exempt from this % as classed as not permanent. However, planning permission for these is needed if overlook neighbour Confused).

Good on-line resource is here.

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PostPosted: 12:22 - 24 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need planning permission for an extension less than 10 cubic metres (pretty big!).
The house we have just purchased has a single storey extension on the back the full width of the house and 6 metres long, when I contacted the council to check there was planning obtained for it before we bought the house I was told it wasn't required for an extension that small.
Plans do need to be made available to neighbours - but that can just be a case of them being on display at the local council.

Contact your local planning office as there may be other restrictions applicable in your area - for example where my parents live there is a height limit so buildings can't be seen from the road.

It will need approving by buildings regulations, but as our extension hadn't been (or the council couldn't find documents to prove it had been) we simply booked an inspector who signed it off in half a day - all before we had purchased the house. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 30 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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10 cubic metres (pretty big!).


10 cubic metres is tiny!

A single storey room 6'x6' is about 10 cubic metres.

Have a word with your local building control officer. Believe it or not they are usually a helpfull bunch and will advise on what is required. Different councils can have different regulations.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 31 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cillit-BANG wrote:
10 cubic metres is tiny!


I could be wrong..

Our extension is about 5 metres wide, and 4metres long (could be a bit more) and didn't require planning permission.


I found something about the '45 degree rule'. It might be applicable in this circumstance. Basically used to ensure that light isn't blocked to neighbouring buildings.

I've attached a doc that has some guidelines in it.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

it may help if you get the cad guys in building control to do your drawings for you they tend to fly through then. have you spoke to an architect/ structural engineer because although you may not need planning permission building control still has to come out and inspect the works, also they need to look at your structural calculations. if they are not in order you have to rip everything out you have built. Also bear in mind the new part L building regs which govern the energy used in the new part of the build.

The guy i work for (this isnt an advert) usually charges about £500 pounds to survey your property draw it up and go through building control, they usually include a couple of site visits in this. Its roughly the same for a structural engineer also. If you contact an architect make sure they are registered with ARB if they arent they cant call themselves an architect.
Different councils interpret the building regs differently so advice that i could give you for my council might not apply to another council. But you are best speaking to an architect, if you need to ask any questions and if i cant answer them i will ask the architect i work for if that is any help
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