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PostPosted: 14:08 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Wear n tear!!!! Reply with quote

ok a question I own some Dianese gloves that cost me £160, I've had them for around 18months.
Only used them in summer, probably around 3-4000miles use.

the leather on the palm has warn through/ripped, not on the stiching, but in one of the little panels, its a rip about 1.5inch long, you can tell its not been cut on anything.

I've spoke to a mate who knows someone at dianese distributers, and I have been told to take them back to the shop, if they think its wear n tear its tough luck.

But to me if the damn thing wears through on a highly abrasive rubber grip what the hell would happen in a off!!!!


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PostPosted: 14:12 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £30 for some richa gloves that have lasted 18 months, survived 2 offs, covered about 1-200 miles a week, have been used through winter and have been used as slapping equipment. I've got one small rip round the logo on a woven part of the gauntlet.

Who ever said you get what you pay for!?

I'd take 'em back, the leather must have come from a diseased cow.

Jack

:edit: Just noticed the time scale, i think you would be hard pushed to get a refund. It'll be put down to wear and tear.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Wear n tear!!!! Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
ok a question I own some Dianese gloves that cost me £160, I've had them for around 18months.
Only used them in summer, probably around 3-4miles use.

the leather on the palm has warn through/ripped, not on the stiching, but in one of the little panels, its a rip about 1.5inch long, you can tell its not been cut on anything.

I've spoke to a mate who knows someone at dianese distributers, and I have been told to take them back to the shop, if they think its wear n tear its tough luck.

But to me if the damn thing wears through on a highly abrasive rubber grip what the hell would happen in a off!!!!


If you had read the Ride mag tests on leathers etc then you would know that each time Dianese scored near the bottom. They are just a 'name' brand bought by ignorant weekend warriors wanting to look good. In reality I wouldn't trust them.


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PostPosted: 14:15 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

take it back , the worst they can say is no,

if they say no boycott them ,

as my shite £3 in a clearance sale Akitos have survived 2 winters , multiple offs at high speed and my sweat eroding them from the inside,

and have changed , before they were barely water proof enough for 5 mins in the rain , but my sweat has reacted with it to make them 100% water proof.

I've got other sets of gloves from HG , but they don't equal the worn in feeling these babies do,
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't see how it can be, ot leather, if it wears through on the rubber grip what hope is there in a crash.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just take them back to the shop! At least then you'll know.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some new gloves last year at the NEC show, i tried on some Dianese gloves and didn't like the bulkiness of them, i'm glad i didn't buy them now!

I ended up buying some Kawasaki gloves and i'm very pleased with them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate has some Dainese Trousers (and Jacket, and gloves, and jockstrap etc etc) and they lasted a week before they went back, split crotch. He'll say something about his lunchbox being too big and spilling out, but I prefer the theory that they weren't whipping the kids hard enough in the sweat shops that week and quality slackened.

Being only a week old, taking them back got them sorted, but he had to ride around in jeans for a week whilst he waited. It did put me off the brand (that, and the prices) despite the saleswoman in the shop never bothering to wear a bra and providing twin distractions to take my eyes off the price label.

As per the other "cheap ebay leathers" thread, I'm on the lookout for some leathers, but thinking now that waiting and buying 'end of season' stuff in October/November/December will get me a decent discount.

Were the prices at NEC show much cheaper than normal? I can imagine they'd only be showing the newest stuff and charge top whack...

I'm just thinking that wandering into a bike shop in darkest snowiest december when there's only tumbleweed wandering down the aisles browsing their wares might get me a decent bargain...
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Wear n tear!!!! Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
If you had read the Ride mag tests on leathers etc then you would know that each time Dianese scored near the bottom. They are just a 'name' brand bought by ignorant weekend warriors wanting to look good. In reality I wouldn't trust them.


If I didn't ride everyday in all weathers I might be offended by that Razz so narrrrrrrrrr, and I know afew guys who ride every day with dianese leathers that your points already mute.
I know it never scores to well in the mag tests but they are never bloody rite anyway.

I have lots of bike kit, the best gloves I've got are IXS, cost me £99, 4 years ago, still in one piece and waterproof. They get so much use the black colour is fading.

I have Dianese leathers and im very impressed by there quality.
but I shall not be buying there gloves again.

One of my friends had problems with a set of dianese gloves, so I think I'll steer clear in future.

When you buy there stuff you know what its about, you know its not BKS stuff, but damn there are alot worse.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF... Shocked Why's my post above warrant a flame?

Admin... please revoke that as i'm sure (hope) it was an error on your part Slickfish Confused
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant to rate it as Abusive as im not keen on being called a "ignorant weekend warrior".
So yeah admins revoke the flame rating please.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
I meant to rate it as Abusive as im not keen on being called a "ignorant weekend warrior".
So yeah admins revoke the flame rating please.
"note to self don't try rating something as the boss walks in" Rolling Eyes


Abusive wouldn't be any better. Disagree would be fine but it's kind of forum etiquette to only use the bad 'red' karmas when someone says something really hurtful to you personally or someone else. I didn't mention you by name in my post when referring to weekend warriors, it was a general comment.

Up to that point you hadn't mentioned you own a full suit and your post seemed to be slating Dianese so my post was in agreement with you if anything. You yourself pointed out that the gloves wouldn't stand up to much as per the ride tests. The point on weekend warriors is perfectly valid as an opinion as explain otherwise why so many people buy them despite the poor performance they offer. simple as it's a name brand with a high price tag. Most of those who fall into the pub posing category are weekend warriors so it's a valid point don't you think?
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the term "ignorant weekend warrior" isn't abusive??, I'd love to know what it means where your from, cus around here it means someone who really can't ride for snott, as for iggnorant I think that means that same all over.
I've read the terms of the ratings, after my cock up before and I found that abusive and as it was quoting me, aimed at me, and thats in the ratings guide, as Abusive.

If you meant anything else, go back read your thread, then think how else it could have been worded.


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PostPosted: 16:13 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
So the term "ignorant weekend warrior" isn't abusive??, I'd love to know what it means where your from, cus around here it means someone who really can't ride for snott, as for iggnorant I think that means that same all over.
I've read the terms of the ratings, after my cock up before and I found that abusive and as it was quoting me, aimed at me, and thats in the ratings guide, as Abusive.


...... once again......notice the bit in bold.....

extreme3d wrote:
Abusive wouldn't be any better. Disagree would be fine but it's kind of forum etiquette to only use the bad 'red' karmas when someone says something really hurtful to you personally or someone else. I didn't mention you by name in my post when referring to weekend warriors, it was a general comment.

Up to that point you hadn't mentioned you own a full suit and your post seemed to be slating Dianese so my post was in agreement with you if anything. You yourself pointed out that the gloves wouldn't stand up to much as per the ride tests. The point on weekend warriors is perfectly valid as an opinion as explain otherwise why so many people buy them despite the poor performance they offer. simple as it's a name brand with a high price tag. Most of those who fall into the pub posing category are weekend warriors so it's a valid point don't you think?
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Wear n tear!!!! Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
They are just a 'name' brand bought by ignorant weekend warriors wanting to look good.


You posted the above after quoting me!!

So if I quoted you after you bought a SV 650 and slated people who bought them, it wouldn't be abusive???
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its ok, i gave you an informative to counter it.

I think you took that too personally slickfish. It did seem to me to be a general comment, and not really worthy of bad karma.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huambo81a wrote:
Its ok, i gave you an informative to counter it.

I think you took that too personally slickfish. It did seem to me to be a general comment, and not really worthy of bad karma.


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PostPosted: 16:36 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well im sorry mate but it's a real insult around here to call someone a weekend warrior!!.

and thats it!, can a mod please remove this who thread as its been taken from a proper question, to a load a rubbish!.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
Well im sorry mate but it's a real insult around here to call someone a weekend warrior!!.

and thats it!, can a mod please remove this who thread as its been taken from a proper question, to a load a rubbish!.


But thats just it, he wasnt calling you an 'ignorant weekened warrier', i think he was commenting on the sheer amount of 'once a year heroes' who turn up on their finely polished MV Augusta F4's wearing the most expensive kit. It was a generalisation which wasnt aimed at you, surely you`ve met some of those guys Razz

p.s if there are any MV Augusta F4 owners who ride once a year and wear Dainese, i apologise lol

But yeah, i have no quarrel with anyone, i rated his post as imformative because i really didnt think it deserved to be hidden.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now when my rating is remove as we have both asked it to be, it get a huge positive rating!.

im sorry mate but it reads to me as a insult every time I read it.

he could have said "you get alot of guys spending £1000 of brand name suits, who ride once a year so these fault arn't shown"

I could type more, but he said these suits are bought by.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paid £40 for my Fieldsheer gloves, seem to offer good protection, great summer gloves. These ive had for over the 2 year mark now and have done me through my offroading days (caked in mud, rain, gunge, petrol, oil). And now are my road gloves and have survived through 2 off's and still look and feel brilliant, so much fine control in them!

In my opinion just because you pay £100 for a pair of gloves, it doesnt make them £60 BETTER than the unnamed equivelant, it just makes them £60 more EXPENSIVE.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:
im sorry mate but it reads to me as a insult every time I read it.


I fail to see how... everyone else including me sees it as a general comment with your entire post simply quoted at the top, dianese slating part and all.

No particular part of your post was quoted so no particular part was mentioned. My post simple followed on from your part about would they survive a crash... ride mag extensivly tested leathers and found them to be near the bottom. It's just a fact that usually weekend warriors buy it as it's a name brand and they get to pose outside the pub in them next to their brand new blade or sim.

I feel that's a fair point Wink
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rite wrong or indifferent you Karma has been restord by the guy earlier, and the mods should remove the flame Karma I gave you.
As Karma seems important to you, you should be happy.

However I still feel you worded it wrong!, and didn't put thought into how it would be recived.

Maybe weekend warrior means something different in your area, but here its not a nice thing to call anyone without a good reason.

Now can we get this thread back on track, as im sure everyone will agree you have your ideas and I have mine, do we really want another thread going the way of the flame war section! Neutral .

Just don't call me a weekend warrior Wink
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

For christ's sake... will you pair of weekend warriors bugger off back into your cars Wink

Anyways, you should take the gloves back to the shop, and verbally batter them into submission with "this isnt good enough, their expensive!" etc
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 01 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
WTF... Shocked Why's my post above warrant a flame?


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