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Mister James
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Riding in London Reply with quote

I had my 6 month checkup today, back where I had my operation on my shattered pelvis at St Georges in Tooting. That entailed riding 17 miles from my home in Harrow (NW London) down sarf off da river.

What a crazy fooked up place London is for riding in!

Ardent Mister James followers will know of my daily battles with Nigerian and Pakistani minicab drivers, but they were nothing compared with mad white bike couriers, crazy african bus drivers and doolally foreign students crossing roads!

Because I was using my GPS, I didn't have any tunes hooked up, which was just as well as I needed every ounce of concentration I could get!

Narrow streets, multiple speed/bus/red light cameras and nutjub drivers make a very unpleasant combination indeed! I can't remember the last time I had to be so wary about idiots (both vehicles and pedestrians) darting out between traffic and cutting across junctions! After an early near miss, I was hyper-aware of the risk, so luckily I didn't run into too much trouble, but when I got the hospital after about 40 mins I was physically drained!

It doesn't help that much of the route was through some of the cackest, nastiest and dirtiest places in the capital - reminding me all over again why I hate living here!

Anyone who commutes through central London on a regular basis has my respect and pity - it can't be pleasant!

Once I got there and had my X ray, I got a lecture from the consultant about how I should get a car blah blah blah blah unsafe blah blah blah. I told him what my job was and we agreed that, in the grand scheme of things, maybe riding a bike wasn't so risky after all!

Apart from being told that everything has healed up nicely, the only high point was that my Tom Tom installation on my MDA Pro worked a treat, giving me ample warning of turnings/obstructions/cameras/junctions/sharp corners/etc. It also did a cracking job of re-routing on the fly, even when I deliberately took some insanely out-of-my-way turnings to confuse it. It took me some time to get the GPS/batteries/secondary power that I wanted for it, but I'm glad I got it sorted, it almost paid for itself today!
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit not been through London for some 10 years and it was mad then.
Mind you on Sundays it's a different place - and 'almost' a pleasure to pootle thorugh looking at all the landmarks.
I always felt if nothing else the drivers were generally good at noticing bikes because there's so many of them about.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, perhaps things have changed then - I got the impression that people were noticing me, and then deliberately trying to kill me!
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time i rode through London was 12 years ago on a KR1S and it will probably be the only time Laughing

The place is completely bonkas! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its fun.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank fuck i live up North, i mean we have arse holes on the road, but doesnt sound a patch on the standard of dick heads driving down there.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I think its fun.


Masochist Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The few times I do go in, I probably enjoy it too much.

Which is why I generally try and avoid it Smile.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
I think its fun.



me too! Thumbs Up Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:
Thank fuck i live up North


We say that as well! Razz

bwfc4eva86 wrote:

i mean we have arse holes on the road, but doesnt sound a patch on the standard of dick heads driving down there.


I regularly ride up in the midlands and sometimes the north and would say the standard of driving is shite. People using their horn if you filter is the biggest problem followed by trying to block your way as they seem to think filtering is illegal. Reaction levels among car drivers seem to be lower than bike riders but outside London as there is so much less traffic the reaction levels seem to plumet even further. Your Police believe in strict interpretation of the law so more likely to get nicked as well.

Never thought I'd say it but I love the MET.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode my zxr400 back from London in january. Friggin freezing and utterly crazy foreign SOB's trying to kill me from every angle. Living there must be soul crushing Confused Its a constant onslaught of morons Laughing every one of them wanting to be in the same place at the same time...
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes London is crazy, But having been born here and lived here, london is the place that first forged my love of biking and is where i still ride day to day for fun... YOu just have to take that "hyper aware " state you mention and hold it, all the time Razz.

Reading the body/car/bike language of drivers and riders helps my poker game anyway Smile
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really do get used to it, I ride from NW London into Central London everyday and yes you do face a ridiculous amount of idiots but it makes you a better rider. Touch wood ive not come off at all after 2 years but ive seen and been past many bikes lying on the road with an ambulance next to it.

Plus its the only way you can get to work in London without using horrible overcrowded buses and tubes, where you might get blown up anyway!

Weirdly I find riding on open country roads more scary than busy congested streets.

Bendy buses really annoy me, as they can turn and take you out without the driver ever even noticing. Also cylcists who just breeze through red lights really annoy me and add to the general bad feeling on the roads.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never thought I'd say it but I love the MET.


You really are strange Shocked I've yet to find a force as anally retentive about minor stuff, not to mention willing to lie through their fucking teeth if they decide they want your collar for something.

I used to enjoy going back to town occasionally to blow the cobwebs out, there is no other city in the UK that has the same standard of brain out hooliganism required to ride in it.

srkid, interesting comment on the country roads. Alot of people assume that riding all day in traffic makes you an expert rider, it does when in traffic. It used to get me sometimes going from "work" mode to "weekend" mode, reading the road is a whole different thing when there's no traffic 6 feet in front and giving you pointers Wink
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's odd, but when you ride through it everyday you don't really notice that it's that bad!!
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do the commute from oxford into central londond (london bridge) every day of the working week, and yes there's some truth in the fact that you get used to it.

You're riding style changes, your attitute changes, you tolerance levels change, generally speaking you turn a funny shade of pink, start growing strange short curly hair and smell of fish, i.e. you turn into a massive c***.

It's not a nice place to ride mid week, and to be honest I would rather be a dispatch rider in Baghdad I think....
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not forget as well that bikes dont pay the congestion charge, though im sure Ken would love to change that if the technology could manage it.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon you're just getting rusty in your old age Mister James Laughing Wink ....it doesn't matter where you ride in London, it's all the same....car drivers, lorry drivers, bus drivers etc. all not paying attention, driving appallingly and totally 'un-bike' aware.

Oh and like srkid, I would be totally useless on the twisties or country roads. I'd be crapping myself in case a rabbit or a fox ran out in front of me! Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the complete opposite, i grew up riding country rodes and like nothing more than an empty B road spread out infront of me Drooling

I'm perfectly capable of riding in urban areas and city centres, but i find myself yearning for the quiet country roads and long sweeping empty corners.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living in Surrey, I have a fair mix of both town riding and country.
Both different styles and requirements but both can be really good fun.
The truth is though that experienced London riders tend to develop a more tolerant nature and take more shit without losing their rag, as if they didn't the stress levels would send you insane.
Riding the Micky bends at speed is a sure way of releasing stress and bring a grin to my face though.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gradog wrote:

The truth is though that experienced London riders tend to develop a more tolerant nature and take more shit without losing their rag, as if they didn't the stress levels would send you insane.


Lol, i guess im not there yet..

also i think most people prefer an open B-road to the northcirc during rush hour. but my point was that its not the doom and gloom all you country folk talk of in your war stories of how you bravely commuted through the city each day... Its just the quality of driving is alot worse than elsewhere, if you go out at night like i frequently do, the plonkers and in bed (mostly) and the pigs are scarce.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drove in London once. Was on a provisional car licence and mum TOLD me to drive back to my sisters (Mordon way) then home.
How i crapped myself doing it. Car/biks/people flying everywhere.
Id like to go back to try on a bike now.
Here, if anyone walks in my path I put my foot down - See them move. What pisses me off is theres traffic lights 100 yards up the road.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
I reckon you're just getting rusty in your old age Mister James Laughing Wink ....it doesn't matter where you ride in London, it's all the same....car drivers, lorry drivers, bus drivers etc. all not paying attention, driving appallingly and totally 'un-bike' aware.


Cheeky git Razz

I ride 15 miles to work and back every day, from Harrow to Heathrow, and that is bad enough. I consider myself pretty good at filtering and predicting traffic flow - I'm just not used to dealing with so many deliberate attempts to impede or hinder me.

The only really cool thing was that there were millions of bikes, and it was quite fun jostling for position at the head of the queues. It's the first time I've pwned a 'Busa away from the lights! (mostly because he was too busy looking mean rather than waiting for the lights to change!)

Sickpup wrote:

Your Police believe in strict interpretation of the law so more likely to get nicked as well.

Never thought I'd say it but I love the MET.


Fair one - at one point I was stopped in the green cycle box at the lights, a police 4x4 pulled up so the driver could give me a hugely exaggerated wagging-of-the-finger, before shooting off down the road.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:

Fair one - at one point I was stopped in the green cycle box at the lights, a police 4x4 pulled up so the driver could give me a hugely exaggerated wagging-of-the-finger, before shooting off down the road.


I'm amazed they even did that TBH.

Remember this is the force that gave me a fixed penalty for 72 in a 30, then dropped all charges and apologised for the stress they caused me.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 04 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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