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BanditBitch
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PostPosted: 05:58 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Decisions, Decisions..........Which bike?? **UPDATE** Reply with quote

Just passed my test and obviously need a bigger bike...... I have whittled it down to:

Kawasaki ER6 (Love the looks of this bike)
Suzuki Bandit 600f
Yamaha 600 Fazer

The ER6 has the best reviews, the Fazer the worst of the three.

I could get a decent Bandit or Fazer without getting debt, but would need to take a bit of debt on to get the ER6. To me the ER6 looks cool.

As a first big bike, would I be better getting something used to familiarize with a bigger bike........ Or should I just bite the bullet, get what I want and treat myself.

Has anyone personal experience of these bikes??? Any advice appreciated.

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PostPosted: 07:12 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can pay it off, get the ER6, if you can't, get a Bandit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Decisions, Decisions..........Which bike?? Reply with quote

What do you want to be doing with this bike?
Ie commuting, touring, fast road riding, trackdays, etc?
How confident are you with bikes, especially with the weight?

Should I presume your 'what I want' is based on looks?
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Decisions, Decisions..........Which bike?? Reply with quote

G wrote:
What do you want to be doing with this bike?
Ie commuting, touring, fast road riding, trackdays, etc?
How confident are you with bikes, especially with the weight?

Should I presume your 'what I want' is based on looks?


G ...... Yeah my wants are:

Good all rounder
Good for first time bigger bike.
Value for Money
Hold price well.

Will be doing a bit of everything apart from trackdays and long tours.

I am ok with the weights of these bikes,and my feet are flat to the floor on them all.
I would say I am fairly confident and smooth, but still bare in mind I am new to bigger bikes, so dont want owt to racey.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Decisions, Decisions..........Which bike?? Reply with quote

BanditBitch wrote:

Good all rounder
Good for first time bigger bike.

All of them would cover this.

Quote:
Value for Money
Hold price well.

The ER6 won't cover this, just because it's pretty new, so you can't get cheap ones.

A quick look on ebay shows a few older Fazers for around the £1.5k mark 'buy it now'. When these came out they were considered reasonably better than the bandit and a true 'do it all' bike.

Also have the added bonus that if you do drop it, you'll lose relatively less money than a shiney bike and parts are easier to get hold of.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's your top three, test ride them all. Take them on long test rides through varying roads. Buy the one you feel most comfortable on.

I like the looks of the ER6 too.

Personally, I wouldn't get into debt over anything except for a house. I always save to buy, and if I can't wait, I get a stop gap until I can afford what I want. "Credit" is "Devil" spelt by dyslexics!
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a born again biker with virtually no previous experience. I opted for the bandit for all the reasons you have listed plus they are quite common which means breakers are full of parts for all my mistakes, which has saved me ~ £400 so far (2 months) against cost new.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

id say a bandit because there cheap, solid and good for a bit of fun on a weekend! and they hold there price well! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say an ER6 just because it's a parrallel twin, the most boring power delivery ever.

Bandit or Fazer. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
I wouldn't say an ER6 just because it's a parrallel twin, the most boring power delivery ever.

Bandit or Fazer. Thumbs Up


parrallel twins aint boring well i dont think so any way, my bike is nice and friendly under 6k but soon as it hits the 6k mark its off like stink.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a HORNET 600... Cool

No prizes for guessing what I ride. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking sensibly i'd recomend getting the bandit or fazer. Practical and very capable bikes with a good proven history. Both are capable of trackdays to touring to commuting with everything inbetween. Also remember that you new to this, you'll probably be off out all the time enjoying the bike and experiencing everything which means that the miles will be the most in your firts year. This means that if you buy new you'll face the biggest depreciation anyway, but even more so if your sticking on loads of miles. A new bike requires servicing at dealerships at dealership prices to gain the stamp needed to uphold its warranty...another big expense. In your first year your more likely to make mistakes including crashing or dropping the bike which will further devalue a newish bike.

but really......

Try all three and see what you prefer, and go with what your heart tells you. Get the bike you really want and what makes you happiest and gives you athe biggest grin and you'll find it more rewarding.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

preludedragon wrote:

Get the bike you really want and what makes you happiest and gives you athe biggest grin and you'll find it more rewarding.


Seen quite a few cases on here where people have 'gone with their heart' and bought a shiny bike and then in the long run found it much less rewarding than when they are riding a bike that's a lot less shiny for various reasons.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
preludedragon wrote:

Get the bike you really want and what makes you happiest and gives you athe biggest grin and you'll find it more rewarding.


Seen quite a few cases on here where people have 'gone with their heart' and bought a shiny bike and then in the long run found it much less rewarding than when they are riding a bike that's a lot less shiny for various reasons.


granted and i fully agree with that, think sensibly and try to resist 'new bike fever'....and there is a lot to be said about an older bike.

but i still think that a bike that stirs some passion can be more satisfying than 'the sensible option', if carefully considered.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Test ride them all. Take someone with you to take piccies of you on each. Then go out and find your preferred bike second hand.

Personally get something which isnt brand new. I got my sv 5mths old for almost half the price of it new., then you can afford to splash out on extra bits to get the bike how you want it.

Never get into debt for anything...that's my rule.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just missed out on 0% finance on the Kawasaki which ended last month.

As you're looking at the Bandit and Fazer too, consider the Z750/Z750S which won the group tests for that kind of bike - and you can usually get around £1000 off the RRP.

https://www.kawasakidirect.co.uk/ are quite cheap.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

preludedragon wrote:
but i still think that a bike that stirs some passion can be more satisfying than 'the sensible option', if carefully considered.

My point was that passion when you're not on the bike may be passion when you are on the bike.

Getting a new shiny thing for a couple of thousand pounds usually does make you feel good.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Given your forum name, its got to be a Bandit Wink .

More seriously, how much experience do you have? If it is a first big bike and you have limited experience then I would say stick with a cheaper 2nd hand bike (and Bandits are dirt cheap 2nd hand), just to see how you like it and give you more idea of what you really like.

If you have more experience of bikes and have tried a few then I would be tempted to say to splash the cash on a new one and buy what you really want (although personally the ER6 doesn't appeal). In this case I would be tempted to say to avoid the Bandit as they are a bit long in the tooth and depreciate badly from new.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd consider a 600 Hornet if I was you,they are a stonking first 'Big' bike,it can be as mental or mild mannered as you allow it to be.

I don't own one now,but it was my first 'BIG' bike and I loved it,make sure you at leasty try one.

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PostPosted: 19:18 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
I wouldn't say an ER6 just because it's a parrallel twin, the most boring power delivery ever.



I don't agree, parallel twins tend not to have the top end rush of power that IL4s deliver, but they are generally considerably better in the midrange. I know which I'd prefer for everyday riding . . .
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zimbo wrote:

I don't agree, parallel twins tend not to have the top end rush of power that IL4s deliver, but they are generally considerably better in the midrange. I know which I'd prefer for everyday riding . . .

In general I'd say that midrange power/torque has a lot more to do with CC than distribution of cylinders.

I've got a famous graph comparing a litre sports twin to a litre sports 4 - the twin only has more torque right at the bottom and then not for long or by much.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

id say the bandit, looks the best out the lot.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the most common....but its your choice at the end of the day!
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 12 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've been riding for about a month or so now and bought a bandit as my first bike. it's been brilliant quick fun handles good and is more than likely going up for sale. the only reason is i want an r6 so its more than likely going. x reg dark blue naked with 9900 miles £1995.

for you first bike a bandit will be great!
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 13 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As previous people have said, try out a Hornet 600. Cracking first big bike, and only as fast as you make it.
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