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 Posted: 03:38 - 13 Aug 2006 Post subject: No sporty 125cc in the USA??? |
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Hello everybody, I am a French guy recently arrived in the US. A few weeks ago I was starting to seriously think about buying my first motorcycle. My plan was to buy absolutely a sport 125cc, and nothing else than that. I am not interested in a 250cc, nor a non-sporty motorcyle. Thus I could have posted a question on this forum, like, "what is currently the best sport 125cc motorcycle; the Aprilia 125, the honda NSR 125, the Yamaha TZR 125, etc.. ?"
After a few research on the web, I figured out that all those 125 motorcycles I just mentionned above ARE NOT SOLD in the US!!!!!!
(according to their respective brands' US website)
I don't understand, I'm sure that would be a real success if those motorcycles were available in America!
Is my assumption right or wrong? I case I am unfortunately right, why they are not imported from Europe???
Thank you very much,
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They don't make the TZR or NSR125 any more so you are unlikely to find them on the manufacturers websites, even assuming they did export them to the US at some point. Second hand would be the way to go.
You could check to see if there are any companies that specialise in importing second hand motorbikes from Japan, there are several in the UK.
Looking at ebay US, there is one rather shoddy looking NSR and not much else, even if you go back to older 2-smoke 125s like the RD125.
Other than that, your only real chance of getting a rapid 125cc 2-stroke is to go down the enduro bike route.
*Wonders out loud if CR125 engine would fit in CBR125 chassis 'twould be an expensive way of doing it though.* |
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Hi
US emissions laws are far stricter for bikes than European ones (Europe is rapidly catching up though), and as such 2 strokes have not been sold there for about 20 years.
If you are lucky you might find a grey import 125 2 stroke, but you will struggle (and could quite possibly have legal problems in the future). The only way to get those into the states is various fiddles about importing them as a track bike and then finding a particularly lax DMV office.
They have also greatly tightened up the rules on importing bikes for track use recently.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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i heard 125cc 2 strokes are illegal in some states of america..  ____________________ - - - BIKE - - - Passed CBT : 21/07/06 - - - Currently : Riding a 2001 Aprilia rs125 (SOLD)
- - - CAR - - - Passed Theory 20/07/06 - - - Lessons, Test on 15th Jan 08... Passed 2 minors |
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why is that? (2 strokes being illegal) ____________________ CBT - Passed - 14/07/2006 Theory - Passed - 19/08/2006 A2 test - Passed -19/07/2007
Previous Bike - Suzuki EN125
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 Posted: 15:27 - 13 Aug 2006 Post subject: Re: No sporty 125cc in the USA??? |
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| Golgot wrote: | Hello everybody, I am a French guy recently arrived in the US. A few weeks ago I was starting to seriously think about buying my first motorcycle. My plan was to buy absolutely a sport 125cc, and nothing else than that. I am not interested in a 250cc, nor a non-sporty motorcyle. Thus I could have posted a question on this forum, like, "what is currently the best sport 125cc motorcycle; the Aprilia 125, the honda NSR 125, the Yamaha TZR 125, etc.. ?"
After a few research on the web, I figured out that all those 125 motorcycles I just mentionned above ARE NOT SOLD in the US!!!!!!
(according to their respective brands' US website)
I don't understand, I'm sure that would be a real success if those motorcycles were available in America!
Is my assumption right or wrong? I case I am unfortunately right, why they are not imported from Europe???
Thank you very much,
Gautier |
Because no-one would buy them.
The reason they sell so many in Europe is because of the learner laws restricting people to 125s and the cost of insruance. In the USA I believe that most learner riders can just go out and get any old bike (except a few states that are <=250cc, especially at 14 years old) and insurance is much cheaper. I'm not quite sure about getting a full bike licence in the USA, but I think the easiest way to do it is just to get a motorcycle learner permit on your car licence and then go on an MSF course, which is a bit like a CBT. The alternative is the good old written test and a riding assessment in a car park. So there aren't many learners over there anyway. ____________________ Current bike: Kawasaki Z750S |
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i see, clean air laws. thats good of north america considering the pollution they cause anyway  ____________________ CBT - Passed - 14/07/2006 Theory - Passed - 19/08/2006 A2 test - Passed -19/07/2007
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o right. that shut me up  ____________________ CBT - Passed - 14/07/2006 Theory - Passed - 19/08/2006 A2 test - Passed -19/07/2007
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Was just reading this thread out of interest and it shocked me lol. I would have thought the USA would have a huge market for 125 bikes =/ Anyways mate I'd recommend good old eBay.
I just went to motors and typed in '125' and came up with this rather nice Aprilia 125 European import:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-Import-2002-2-stroke-Aprilia-RS-125-GP-Replica_W0QQitemZ180017785209QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38627QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Perhaps give that a look, Aprilia are a good make and in my opinion would meet your requirement for a 'sporty' 125.
If you type 125 in you tend to get a lot of motorcross bikes. I don't know the laws in America as I live in the UK, but I'm guessing there must be some way to make crossers road legal? Anyone American here to help with that thought?
Anyway mate best of luck finding your bike  ____________________ .: NinjaBoy :. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 59 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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