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BanditBitch
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Not liking the Fazer....Genuine Advice Needed. Reply with quote

I know its early days....... only just bought the Yamaha FZS 600 Fazer, and only just passed my test etc......but..........I am not liking it. I have bitten off more than I can chew Shocked

Some of you may laugh, but I am finding it a bit much, far to revvy, racy and light, frankly, it scares the s*** out me. The front end seems light and skittish.

I dont feel comfortable with it at all, so much so that its knocking my confidence. Sad I have only done about 250 miles so far, but I am not settling into it.

Its shame cos it really is a cracking bike.

I will ride it until the log book comes through and if I am still not happy, then I will put it up for sale.

So, can anyone recommend anything with a heavier, more grounded feel to it........if you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think it's too much at the moment, maybe restrict it to 33bhp? Then you can de-restrict at your leisure.

Otherwise I'd suggest other suitables are ER6F/N, Bandit, maybe even an MT-03 which have the plus of being gorgeous as well as fairly grounded and stable. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for a couple more lessons on the fazer
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about taking an advanced riding course. It may give you confidence if someone is improving your riding on the bigger machine.

It seems a shame that you feel that way after passing and getting a 1st bike.

Hang on in there, take things gently, dont rush to any quick decisions.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth asking Someone Who Knows(tm) to have a look at the suspension setup?
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
What about taking an advanced riding course.


Excellent idea.

What about the Police run course, Bikesafe?

They're bound to have a centre near you.

Look Here...

https://www.bikesafe.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've replied else where to other points, but in relation to advanced training etc, I believe the general opinion is that you should do it when you are confident riding generally and have some experience - it should be teaching you further new skills, rather than reinforcing the basics.

Oh and I believe bike safe is supposed to be more of an assement than training, though they do have a training element - again building on skills here. Not sure though, will see on Saturday when I'm doing it Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G mate.

Bikesafe is a hoot.

You'll learn absolutley loads, even if you thought you knew it all.

Them feds, they sure know how to ride. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 15 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's if they say 'ride like you usually do' that I worry about - been riding like a twat recently, though in the past I have gone through phases of trying to put 'advanced' riding techniques into play to some degree (within reason Smile ).
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The front end seems light and skittish.

Don't mean to be rude but can I ask what tyre's are on the bike, their pressures and general condition, and most importantly your weight.

If the bike is older check when the fork oil was last changed, it could be old and therefore not working as well as it should.

I weigh in at a featherweight 8 stone and have had a few tankslappers on my GPZ500s, my dad who weighs a bit more than me, and who also rides faster (though admittedly smoother) does not have these problems. I find shifting my weight over the front when going fast (for me anyway!) around corners settles it a great deal. Going fast around them whilst sitting in the bikes natural upright position makes the front end feel as though it will tuck.
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

but surely you had some test rides before buying the bike...didnt you ?

try riding it and never taking it past 7thousand revs or lower if necessary
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can happen. My mate did his DAS and I gave him my old GPZ500. It was pretty tatty looking but was well sorted out mechanically. He never did get on with it, he was frightened of it and would never open it up. Eventually he got himself an F650 and to be honest, he is faster and smoother on that than he ever was on the GPZ.

The idea of restricting it for a bit sounds like a good one.

That said, it is one of those experiences that many people miss out on these days. I remember my first 'big bike' after I passed my test on a 125. Scared the bejesus out of me the first time I opened it up. It is a steep learning curve.

The idea of getting someone more experienced to have a go on it to check the tyre pressures and suspension setup are good and that the bike is generally 'alright' is also a good one. You always have a kind of niggle at the back of your mind that there is something not quite right with the bike, even on one you have ridden for years. Getting a second oppinion does wonders for your confidence.
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PostPosted: 03:00 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm what about the one on my signature??

Extra riding course sounds like a good idea, other than that all i can say is there is a time period for getting to gel with a new bike, take it easy and gradually your confidence will grow. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

That said, it is one of those experiences that many people miss out on these days. I remember my first 'big bike' after I passed my test on a 125. Scared the bejesus out of me the first time I opened it up. It is a steep learning curve.

The idea of getting someone more experienced to have a go on it to check the tyre pressures and suspension setup are good and that the bike is generally 'alright' is also a good one. You always have a kind of niggle at the back of your mind that there is something not quite right with the bike, even on one you have ridden for years. Getting a second oppinion does wonders for your confidence.


Yeah I have had a couple of experienced riders try it out and they say it is fine, although my OH agrees it is very revvy and responsive.

It wont be the bike that the problem, its me.... so I have got to either get my head round it and give my time to get used to it, or get something else.

As I said, I will ride it till log book comes by them I will definitely know one way or the other.
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

250 miles is too little really, to know for sure if it's the bike for you.

Once you've done a few more miles and got used to how the Fazer rides/responds, I'm sure you'll grow to love it, tis an excellent bike! Thumbs Up

Always the same feelings with a bike you're not used to riding.

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PostPosted: 08:00 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked at an SV650 or a Hornet I am looking at these.

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PostPosted: 08:15 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

short1uk wrote:
Have you looked at an SV650 or a Hornet I am looking at these.

Catherine


I have tried the sv650, it felt uncomfortable. Havent ridden hornet yet, so if you do.....let me know your verdict, as seen from a new riders point of view.

I have ridden my OH's VFR 750 and it feels much calmer and grounded, not as scarey as the fazer. Shame I cant talk him into giving it to me. Confused

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Hornet is even faster than a Fazer and the handling to say the least in my experience is a lot to be desired.

I suspected the Bandit would have been the better choice for you. The Handling really good and the bike always feel firmly planted and will only go really fast when you want it too.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
A Hornet is even faster than a Fazer and the handling to say the least in my experience is a lot to be desired.


Shocked Shocked Shocked You must have rode a duffer mate my hornet handled well. theres not mush in it between the fazer and hornet, fazer has better brakes.

BB - Just give it time go our on afew ride on your own with no pressure and potter about. You will either get used to the bike or just hate it more and more, if you still don't get on with it get shut of it, and test ride bikes to death to make sure the next one will be rite for you Thumbs Up Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slickfish wrote:


Shocked Shocked Shocked You must have rode a duffer mate my hornet handled well. theres not mush in it between the fazer and hornet, fazer has better brakes.

BB - Just give it time go our on afew ride on your own with no pressure and potter about. You will either get used to the bike or just hate it more and more, if you still don't get on with it get shut of it, and test ride bikes to death to make sure the next one will be rite for you Thumbs Up Thumbs Up .

The Hornet was a 2000 faired version and compared to my Bandit the handling was awful.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest that 250 miles is no way enough distance for you to feel completely as ease as you did on your 125/das period with all those buckets of support and encouragement you received from your instructors.
You're on your own now Thumbs Up Time for some fun and time to carry on with that learning curve. I reckon your super tense before you even start the bike up. Chill a little Mr. Green Stop beating yourself up. The fazer is a great 1st bike. Nice and upright, comfortable, good breaks and forgiving of mistakes. You made a good choice Wink
Couple of the cuff suggestions I'd make. If the bike isn't properly warmed up, the throttle is going to be a little jumpy and sensitive. If you're not smooth with throttle control it will effect the bikes suspension/balance a lot and make it feel uncomfortable and skittish. Looking back I found the throttle a little temperamental on my Fazer. I then balanced the carbs which were well out. Changed the throttle control completely. Especially when cold. I'd suggest you may need to look at your carbs.
Another completely different tip is to keep your elbows bent. Don't keep your arms rigid straight. Steering imputs change like magic just by by dipping your elbows. You'll be amazed. Keeping your arms straight...well your just being your own worst enemy.
You'll be fine. Good Luck.


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PostPosted: 09:24 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have ridden my OH's VFR 750 and it feels much calmer and grounded, not as scarey as the fazer. Shame I cant talk him into giving it to me.


Im sure if he can buy a new bike from the proceeds of selling the fazer he could be persuaded...

Or alternatively, sell the fazer and buy your own VFR....

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever happened to working your way up as your experience increased. Rolling Eyes

I wouldnt have dreamed of buying a full power 600 straight after my test.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Whatever happened to working your way up as your experience increased. Rolling Eyes

I wouldnt have dreamed of buying a full power 600 straight after my test.


Same here.

However I don't think that 250 miles is enough to get used to a bike. Its just a mind set thing.

A Fazer should be friendly enough for most people to ride, you just need to get confidence. I would strongly reccomend letting someone you trust ride your bike at a reasonable pace with you on the pillion seat. This will give you more of an idea of what the bike can do, and what it should feel like when you are riding.

Don't sell up, its all in the mind and can be overcome. Even so, I'd have gone for a 400 after passing my test personally (which I did).
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 16 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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