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trevoriv
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Good motorway commuter bike? Reply with quote

I'm contemplating moving house but my main problem is that i will be around 40-50 miles from where i work.

Im currently getting around 100 miles from £10 of petrol from my ZX636R which would mean £50 per week of petrol which is a bit excessive.

Are there any decent commuter bikes that have the pace to sit at 80-90mph on the motorway and use a decent amount of petrol/tyres and other consumables?

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PostPosted: 18:38 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPZ500s? You would get better fuel enonomy and still have a fairing to keep the wind off you. Tyres would also be cheaper, as would insurance and tax. They are also very cheap bikes to buy.

However are you planning on keeping the zx6 and running a second bike or selling the zx6 and replacing it? If you are contemplating keeping the zx6 then run through the amounts to see if it would still be cheaper to run the zx6 than owning two bikes.

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PostPosted: 18:40 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about an SV650?

I'm surprised Extreme didn't suggest it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pte1643 wrote:
How about an SV650?

I'm surprised Extreme didn't suggest it. Very Happy


Laughing True enough. An old style Curvy SV would make a good choice as they are very cheap AND would still be a lot of fun come the weekend. Insurance is low at group 10 (9 on the unfaired but motorways would be uncomfy). Tyres are 160's so aren't as cheap as a typical 500's but still a lot less than a zx6's 180. Being a 650 the tax is higher but that cost is off-set come service time - only 2 spark plugs required!

Fuel economy though is about the same as a zx6.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NT650V , bit bland though
the original NTV was bland but this is worst steady as a rock though at 80mph (less so @ 115mph) ,

CBF600 is good
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GPZ's sit up and beg position isn't brilliant on the motorway. It's not unbearable but i wouldn't fancy 50 miles on a windy rainy day.

Still, the ~200 miles to a tank should make up for it.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an NTV 650V ( Alias Honda Deauville and some say Dullsville)
It does me ok for small commuting (30 mile/day) and occaisional longer rides and they have been widely used by couriers and instructors.

I'm fairly new to biking but I find it ideal for me now I'm more used to the weight.
It's also comfortable and the fairings and screen keep much of the weather off.

Cruises nicely at 80-85 but gets a bit vibey at 90. Also comes with standard panniers big enough to put your sandwiches in + a bit more.

I get around 55 mpg some claim they get 60+

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PostPosted: 19:16 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
Pte1643 wrote:
How about an SV650?

I'm surprised Extreme didn't suggest it. Very Happy


Laughing True enough. An old style Curvy SV would make a good choice as they are very cheap AND would still be a lot of fun come the weekend. Insurance is low at group 10 (9 on the unfaired but motorways would be uncomfy). Tyres are 160's so aren't as cheap as a typical 500's but still a lot less than a zx6's 180. Being a 650 the tax is higher but that cost is off-set come service time - only 2 spark plugs required!

Fuel economy though is about the same as a zx6.


Most 500's use two spark plugs, and they're hardly a selling point with the SV, what with being £8 each at the most Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm behind Extreme 3d here on the gpz point.
Tax is £45, a rear battalax bt45 has just cost me £75 fitted and wil last 6000miles.
I get 160 miles to reserve, which then costs me about £8 to refil ready to go again (monetary values I think are better than talkin litres)

though it works out around 50mph,

mines 33bhp but pulls 110mph and is speedy to 90mph.

The fairing provides excellent protection from wind blast (if you duck behind it you get more wind noise and blast it also knocks 2mph off the top speed Laughing )

Spark plugs havn't got alot to do with anything on 4t's unless they're uber expensive. I spend more money on good oil and regular oil changes, the spark plugs are 10 000miles old and are still correctly gapped.

I managed to get two free spark plugs at Heine Gerricke as they hadn't got an air filter to give me for any of the 20 different models of bike I asked for.. (they just wanted me to leave) so I said well could I have the spark plugs instead...

anyhow rambling on....
go for an older 500 - there is a gpz in my paper 2 years older than mine for £500 with T&T
for that money you could cover it in waxoil for winter and ride it into the ground. or spend a little keeping it good and sell it for what you paid when you're bored of commuting/move house/ change job/win the lottery


I love my little GPZ, it's cheap, reliable, nips through town, you can carry alot of stuff on it as the bungy hooks are excellent (see below poor quality picture).
when work is done at the weekend, with a restricted 31.1bhp it's good for peg scraping and embarrassing many a larger capacity sports bike rider.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:
The GPZ's sit up and beg position isn't brilliant on the motorway. It's not unbearable but i wouldn't fancy 50 miles on a windy rainy day.

Still, the ~200 miles to a tank should make up for it.



I'm 5ft 4 and have no problem doing long stints on the motorway on the GPZ

How tall are you spanner monkey?
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSX600F. Faired, comfortable, can feel a bit heavy at first, but you soon get used to it. I do around 300 m/way miles a week for about £35. Stick some touring tyres on and you're set.

Plus it always annoys the tits off Colin1 when someone gets one...
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:

I get 160 miles to reserve, which then costs me about £8 to refil ready to go again (monetary values I think are better than talkin litres)

though it works out around 50mph,



Hi rossi, how do you work out 50 miles per hour from your fuel consumption Embarassed Embarassed Wink
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrtEE wrote:
Simple wrote:

I get 160 miles to reserve, which then costs me about £8 to refil ready to go again (monetary values I think are better than talkin litres)

though it works out around 50mph,



Hi rossi, how do you work out 50 miles per hour from your fuel consumption Embarassed Embarassed Wink



Hi hawk eye

you add 2 bottles of cider to a 7 stone female add a calculator and a keyboard

anymore questions? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
extreme3d wrote:
Laughing True enough. An old style Curvy SV would make a good choice as they are very cheap AND would still be a lot of fun come the weekend. Insurance is low at group 10 (9 on the unfaired but motorways would be uncomfy). Tyres are 160's so aren't as cheap as a typical 500's but still a lot less than a zx6's 180. Being a 650 the tax is higher but that cost is off-set come service time - only 2 spark plugs required!

Fuel economy though is about the same as a zx6.


Most 500's use two spark plugs, and they're hardly a selling point with the SV, what with being £8 each at the most Rolling Eyes


Selling point? I wasn't on about the sparks as a selling point. I was simply pointing out that as the SV's extra 50cc puts it into the next tax bracket above a zx6, that cost, as requested in his original post, has to be taken into account. However as it only needs 2 sparks vs his zx6's 4 the cost is countered come service time.

I wasn't comparing an SV to a 500. Incidently the blue Geeperz in the pic above was one of my past bikes so yes I know a 500 only uses two Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

300 miles on £35 i can do that on my zxr :/

I would be selling the zxr and getting something else, i cant afford two bikes at the moment.

The GPZ sounds like a sensible option, hows reliability on em? Would have to test ride it first though as im 6'4" :s

I may try a few mway runs without thrashing the tits of the zxr and see how long the fuel lasts, id really miss the bike if i got rid Crying or Very sad

At the risk of sounding like a complete tit, what are the bigger scooters like on fuel say a silverwing for example?
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
300 miles on £35 i can do that on my zxr :/

I would be selling the zxr and getting something else, i cant afford two bikes at the moment.

The GPZ sounds like a sensible option, hows reliability on em? Would have to test ride it first though as im 6'4" :s

I may try a few mway runs without thrashing the tits of the zxr and see how long the fuel lasts, id really miss the bike if i got rid Crying or Very sad

At the risk of sounding like a complete tit, what are the bigger scooters like on fuel say a silverwing for example?


If you are 6'4 then a test ride on a geeperz is a must. They have a low seat height which is one of the perks for us smaller people but perhaps not so good if you are tall. As to reliability they are bulletproof and cheap to service. The basic design has remained unchanged for nearly a decade so everything including the engine is fairly simple and no-frills - nothing much to go wrong really.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 21 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
SpannerMonkey wrote:
The GPZ's sit up and beg position isn't brilliant on the motorway. It's not unbearable but i wouldn't fancy 50 miles on a windy rainy day.

Still, the ~200 miles to a tank should make up for it.



I'm 5ft 4 and have no problem doing long stints on the motorway on the GPZ

How tall are you spanner monkey?


I'm 6' so not that tall. But i guess i'm a fair bit wider too and mostly wear textiles which plays a big factor. It's not too bad until you try something with a bigger fairing and sportier riding position, then you notice how exposed you are on the gpz, even tucked in. Like i say, it's bearable but if i was commuting on the motorway, i'd look for something a bit wider, with a slightly more stretched riding position and a bigger fairing. More of a dedicated tourer than a sports tourer.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike might be an ER5 (hmmmm 8-( )

But one thing going for it is its fuel consumption, recently got 76 miles out of £4. (Thats exact cos I filled up before I set off and when I got there). That was all motorway miles all at no more than 75mph.

It is a commuter bike after all.

Saying that it is my first big bike and I like it.
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
GSX600F. Faired, comfortable, can feel a bit heavy at first, but you soon get used to it. I do around 300 m/way miles a week for about £35. Stick some touring tyres on and you're set.

Plus it always annoys the tits off Colin1 when someone gets one...

Yep or the Bandit, on the Motorway at 80MPH you will get 160 miles to reserve. With enough punch to make the bike exciting.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:


I'm 6' so not that tall. But i guess i'm a fair bit wider too and mostly wear textiles which plays a big factor. It's not too bad until you try something with a bigger fairing and sportier riding position, then you notice how exposed you are on the gpz, even tucked in. Like i say, it's bearable but if i was commuting on the motorway, i'd look for something a bit wider, with a slightly more stretched riding position and a bigger fairing. More of a dedicated tourer than a sports tourer.


but a wider bike goes against it's ability to filter which can mean the difference between being stuck for 20 minutes without the comfort of a car or well on your way home.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Good motorway commuter bike? Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
...Are there any decent commuter bikes that have the pace to sit at 80-90mph on the motorway and use a decent amount of petrol/tyres and other consumables?

As said there's the NTV650 or the newer NT650V aka Deauville.

There's also something like the Kawasaki GT550 (or 750 if you can find one) but get one with a fairing. Should do about 180 to 200 miles to the tank. Built like the Forth bridge. Been around since the ark so any replacement bits can be had cheap as chips from breakers or eBay.

Basically for motorway work you don't want a high revving arse in the air head down weight on the wrists bike. Something with a high degree of torque and a more relaxed/upright riding position. Depends on how much you want to spend but something like the BMW GS1150 would do the job. Or get a 2nd hand BMW/Honda tourer from someone like Force motorcycles.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
but a wider bike goes against it's ability to filter which can mean the difference between being stuck for 20 minutes without the comfort of a car or well on your way home.


I've filtered on every bike I've had. Without panniers, obviously...
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete pish posh, I get better MPG on my ZX6R than I ever did on my 2004 bandit 600s.

Use your ZX6, no excuse not too. Just be gentle with the throttle and dont go above 70mph and your looking at 170+ miles to 15L of fuel (or to reserve) which is MORE than I could get out of the bandits 17L to reserve tank doing the same thing.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to take the new ZZR 600 out for a run to Bradford and Back (320 miles all in) with Mrs. K. this weekend so will let you know how it fairs If I remember to.. Smile.

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PostPosted: 22:39 - 22 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd look out for a shaft drive.
Any shaft drive would do.
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