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[JodieWodie]

Would appreciate some advice on a woody matter...

I have a newish neighbour
He seems okay. Quiet, respectful, but as of today he has rubbed my partner and I the wrong way

Our back doors are opposite each other, and there is, (was), a 5 foot fence there for a bit of privacy

It is on the right hand side, is our responsibility, and we put the old fence up there
We also put up a 4 foot fence down the length of the garden on the right hand side a few years back
(We didn't want a massive fence, as all the sun would be blocked in the afternoon)

I was awoken this morning to crashing and banging, and when I looked out the window, there was a blokey tearing into the fence between the 2 back doors/yards
When I shouted down, the neighbour came out and said "Oh, I am just replacing the fence. That ok"?
To which I replied, "F*ing spose so now you have half ripped that one down"

He has now put a 6 foot one up in it's place..okay, I guess. A bit messy on our side, posts/holes etc.. but it IS newer

I went out later on to chat to the builder blokes as the neighbour had gone to work
Transpires he is going to put 6 foot fence all round the garden
He knows my partner put our garden fence in etc.. and we wanted it waist height for the sun, so if we won't let him rip it down he will just build a 6 footer next to it

Now, I know he is entitled to, but it will render out garden a bit sh*t in the summer for BBQ's etc.. and I feel slightly sad about that
(The garden is quite narrow you see, so the sun comes and goes quite quickly with a waist height fence, so a huge one will give us about 20 mins sun in the summer)

He seemed like a nice young chap, but obviously not nice enough to care about anyone else
Yes, he wants privacy, don't we all, but I just feel a bit cheesed that something is being taken away from me and there is bugger all I can do about it

Anyone else sorted these things out amicably ?
Doesn't seem a lot we can say to him
He wants a high fence, we don't
end of

Cheers
Jo xx
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[craigie b]

Speak to him and explain the situation. Otherwise, if you cannot make him see reason then I guess you have no choice but to seek legal action if thats possible

[feef]

have you spoken to the neighbour about it? or just his hired help?

There is a thing in some property deeds about "light and air" which means you are limited in what you can do that might impede 'light and air' aroudn your property. If his fence is high enough to obscure light from your garden, he may be in breach of his deeds.

Speak to him, and explain why, and if that doens't work, check out the deeds and find out if it breaches his contract or ownership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/guides_to/gardening_planning.shtml

[Ste]

[feef]

[JodieWodie]

[feef]

[strag]

If you own the property and therefore the fence, I would assume he has no right to touch it. Check your deeds, and call your local planning office. The last thing you want to do is get into a neighbour dispute but it sounds like he is taking the piss! Pulling it down without asking?? No way! I would also tell him to consult you in any similar situations before starting any work.
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[colin1]

i could quite easily be your young neighbour if i could be arsed.

I am used to having privacy in a garden rather than this 4ft fence marlarkey, so i have never been keen on the low fence which is my neighbours responsibility.

He has an extension from the back of his house with a kitchen window that faces my patio doors on the back living room

I dont think he was too keen on my habit of walking around starkers(in my house not in the garden), so they now have a blind in the kitchen.

I have also put in a budllea bush which now its grown means he cant see into my house anymore.

However I have often thought about putting an extension to his 4ft dividing fence to take it to 6ft.

He might lose a bit of morning sun if I did, but I would suddenly have a private garden which would be nice.

I cant be arsed though.

Id suggest having some kind of amicable chat and a compromise.

For example some kind of frosted perspex fence that would let light through but keep things private.

If you get friendly chatty with him, he might not feel so awkward about having no privacy.

I felt a bit less awkward after I had said hello to my neighbours a few times and wd feel less awkward still if I had a conversation with them, but I dont think its going to happen.
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[zaknafien]

If I could i'd have a 12ft fence around my garden, maybe a roof too.
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[JonB]

LMAO. Siggi, i'm really digging your cynical phrases.
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[JodieWodie]

[daz|n00by]

the new fence he has replaced is known as a privacy fence and not a lot you can do about it really apart from the fact the posts must be on his side of the fence, he is only allowed to replace and renew aslong as the fence is left in the same state as it started ie the face side(good) must be facing the way it was to start.

A privacy fence is required by council laws and only by agreement between to 2 houses can sizes be altered, if he wants a 6 foot privact fence then he is intilted to one, but you can make him take it down and rebuild it so the posts are his side.
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[colin1]

ah cool so i could do the same in my garden
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[Walloper]

'Adjust' the height to what you want and say to the noob:
"Oh by the way, thanks so much for replacing OUR fence mate.
We've saved you a bit of time and cut it to the FINISHED SIZE for you."

You, 'hands-on-hearts', thought the guy was just being neighbourly by 'ripping' out 'your' old fence and putting the new one up for yous.

It would have been decent and damned more civilised to at least have informed you of his intention to change the joint boundary.

Do not complain to him about the fence then he won't 'justifiably' be able to think you were pissed off.

If you complain, expect fisticuffs later as that's what it may take to sort it.
Or, fart about with court-type tossers.
(Who cost too much and someone always gets their nose bloodied anyway.)

I have an old T shirt if you need it.
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I was always led to believe that the Left side was your responsability.....That's how everybody around here does it.....
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[JodieWodie]

I am going to fu*ing kill that tw*a of a doley builder next door I swear !!

Basically, after my OH had a chat with our neighbour the other night about various things, he was supposed to feedback to the builder asap (I say builder. His fence is as straight as a banana)
One of the minor points raised was that my soft broom (kitchen broom) that was outside by the kitchen door, had suddenly been covered in mud and concrete
In next doors garden it was all nicely swept, no sign of a broom

Now..we did not say that he had used our broom, we pointed out that 'someone' had used it for concrete and ruined it
We didn't want a replacement, it's a broom at the end of the day

So, small matter... take it no further
Just anyone ask if you want to use our stuff

I just popped out into the garden to be shouted at by the Neanderthal
"What's this about a fuc*in brush ? I aint used no-ones brush. If yer man is saying that you had better get yer fu*kin man out here now!"
Erm... To which I replied that it's only a brush, and we didn't want arguments, we just pointed out that someone had swept concrete with it
To which I got more ranting and raving saying he wanted to see "yer fu*kin man"
What an idiot

SO this dope is here for another 2/3 weeks
Great
Anyone got a raw steak to keep the beastie occupied ?
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[LewisD]

Offer him a sandwich for his lunch:

https://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/N/G/HBNGA9WaGrM_Pxgen_r_Ax270.jpg
A knuckle sandwich anyhow

[JodieWodie]

I would, but he looks very rough
His teeth are missing all but 1 or 2 in the front, he is covered in scars, tattoos, and looks a bit hard
He scares me actually
I don't think he should have shouted at me like that, but... o well
I just don't want any arguments
We have to live here

He is also 'friends' with next door, so there is a good chance we will see him in the future
In fact, next door is looking after his rottie in a couple of weeks for him, so will defo see him around

If he was my permanent neighbour then I think I would have a bit of trouble on my hands

Why have people got to be so confrontational ?
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[WavyGravy]

These type of disputes can escalate to the point where the first conversation you have with the OH every evening starts "You'd never guess what he's done now" and every minor incident like a dog barking causes more stress, if he's gone ahead with the trellis idea then that sounds a good compromise, until the day next year his fast growing climbers fill in the gaps!.

His builder ought to rectify the problems with the first part before proceeding with the rest of the work, especially as it appears to be on your land!

Have you looked at the boundarys on the deeds as over years of people erecting/replacing fences its possible the new fence is being put up on your land, in which case you can tell him to take it down, tthe downside is that its possible your existing fence is on his land, but its worth checking.

If the new fence is butted up against yours you might like to ask him how on earth youre supposed to weatherproof yours, I suppose what i'm saying is that there endless opportuntiies to needle eachother, but you're going to be stuck as neighbours so you might as well try and sort it out before it gets worse. I read somewhere about a similar dispute that only ended with the fence being taken down if the 'new' treehouse was also removed, ,,,, have you got a suitable tree? or do you know how to build on stilts?

Good Luck
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