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PostPosted: 13:44 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Women and bad BFs? Reply with quote

Why is it that women are seemingly real or otherwise imagined always with blokes who treat them badly?.

BWFC has recent example , I've seen a recent example a woman who works down stairs in another office always has 'falls down the stairs'.


Any ideas?
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it starts as a normal happy relationship. Then usually something makes it turn sour. The bloke begins to treat the woman like shite. This in turn lowers her self confidence and self esteem. That in mind, she becomes emotionally weak and feels that she is not worth very much and will begin to wonder why anyone would see anything in her.
At this stage, blokey can then easily stick around while treating her like crap as she feels she cant get anyone better.

On the flip-side, it can happen to men too. It's happened to me before... But I got control! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean woman who stay with bad men or are attracted to them?
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will not go into details but i have been here before. I was with a man for years aho fdrained me of my self esteem and confidence, he drank abused me and done worse. i was ashamed i let myself go through that when i came out of it. It was the hardest thing trying to get away from him as he did nearly kill me a few times and before anyone says why didnt i tell the police i did. He got worse and came back and broke into my house and made me pay for telling, i never opened my mouyth again.

Until the day i cracked, after he had done something that left me crawling the streets covered in blood i got my mate to lock me in her house so he could not find me. I moved home and spend months suffering from depressin and panic attacks where worse as of what he would do to me. He was powerful over me. I wasnt who i am now.

H did make me stronger and now i wont put up with any shit i know whats its like to be stuck in that hell! Though i am riddles with anger and revenge for him i am still a better person than i was then and have coem along way and wont allow anyone to treat me with little respect.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's shit. All credit to you for getting out of that hell.

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PostPosted: 14:22 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do pity people that are stuck in that situation though. Crying or Very sad i dont want to give to much detail as most cant listen to them but i think yuo got the jist.

But i learned from it and take it as a positive now what happened, as i always say karma will get him and from what i hear it has big time. Very Happy

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you broke free Dragonfly, no-one deserves to be treated like that Evil or Very Mad

My other half experienced something very similar, she was psychologically abused to the point where she had zero self confidence and daren't even touch anything in her own home for fear of being beaten up for moving stuff.

She divorced the tw*t and may even having a restraining order on him (not sure on that)

But now shes with me and i try to treat her right
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking

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PostPosted: 16:25 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth mentioning, abuse doens't always come with broken bones and bruises. I have a friend who was actually releived when her ex hit her, becuase there was actual physical proof on the outside of her body, instead of constantly having to live with what he was doing to her emotionally.

When I separated from my ex, someone advised me to go to a support group at a battered women's shelter. I didn't think I belonged there. He'd never physically hit me. But I went anyway, and i realised once everyone started talking that I did belong there, becuase I felt exactly the same that they did. I was terrified of him, I felt worthless, and powerless, just like they did.

I dont' have any scars you can see from my life with him, but I do have scars where you can't see.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mental abuse is far worse! been there also. When yuor told you are stupid, or fat and useless over and over again yuo feel like it. Its hard to look people in the eye when you dont value yourself. Alot cant understand why but when the man yuo love tells you that its crushing. Crying or Very sad

There are self esteem groups out there that help woman.

I have heard men go through this also and know men who went through this.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are a lot of dickhead blokes in the world, mental abuse i would say has longer side effects and any man that hits a woman for whatever reason should be slowly beaten to death by a gorilla!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

women prefer bastards

also, some women wind up men with tempers (due to their time of the month mood swings) and turn them into bastards

i know this wont be a popular viewpoint...
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
women prefer bastards

also, some women wind up men with tempers (due to their time of the month mood swings) and turn them into bastards

i know this wont be a popular viewpoint...


As someone who disagrees with you, You're probably right about it being unpopular.

You're basically saying that if those damn women would keep their mouths shut and not make their men angry, they wouldnt' get beat?

You obviously have no idea of what goes on inside someone's head when they're being abused, how much they question every step, every move they've made becuase they're sure if they had just tried harder/been prettier/not spoken up it wouldnt' have happened. Then they spend the rest of their time walking on eggshells, afraid to do or say anything in case that was the thing that set the guy off.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I burnt my es's dinner one day by accident and he made sure i never done it again. I spoke to a man in the street and he made sure i never done that again. I wasnt allowed to speak when he started on one, said he didnt give me permission to speak. So collin did i anger the tempered man that much to deserve that?
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
women prefer bastards

also, some women wind up men with tempers (due to their time of the month mood swings) and turn them into bastards

i know this wont be a popular viewpoint...


But it's your opinion Colin and you are entitled to that.... But tell me... Have you ever been out with someone who was REALLY abused? I'm not talking just the odd slap now and again, I'm talking full on Physical and Psychological abuse.

(Still thinking what I have to say on this matter as I don't want to sit here and give examples left, right and centre) Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its always hell for anyone in that situation
I married one
pots n pans thrown at my head, hitting on front of my kids, wouldnt let me out of the house, accused me of having affairs (yet to figure out the basis of these) stopped me working, took all my money off me. I walked out a few times but ended up back there givin ot one last go for the kids sake and all that, scared me in many ways ill not go into but lets just say after being out of it for 5 years or summat, (no idea anymore lol) I still have to talk to her (cos of the kids) and its difficult when I see her mannerisms in my kids sometimes, It takes all my self controll to keep a lid on it and not be the lynch party if they are bad and not to slag her off infront of them, hell shes teaching them to lie, I remember my son telling my friend he used to have cancer,, Oh how that was fun,
there currently on the protection register because shes a useless cow (not that bad, at least the social services are keeping tabs on her )

This is the first time ive actually gone into detail like that but with the current situation in my life I know I can live in the now, not in the past.

you just gotta keep ticking over till your time comes I guess Smile

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen too many women who sit back and suffer from this type of stuff. A girl at work wouldn't speak to males because her boyfriend would go nuts, it took a lot but eventually she started speaking to me properly. She'd get offended at the smallest of jokes, eventually she overcame this and started answering me back, shocked me at first but I couldn't stop laughing, she was atually really witty.

Then she got out of the relationship, got her confidence back, flirted happily, can now take jokes and gives back just as much as is sent her way.

Now she's back with another prick, shame, she's really good looking too. She does the same again though, avoids speaking to males if he is around because he goes nuts, aparrently he said he was going to beat me up once because he saw me chatting to her on a night out, bullshit, he's all mouth.

Colin, your view is complete bollocks, sometimes recently your opinions have actually been spot on, seems you still have an issue with females though and you really need to sort it out.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

point of fact, only ever hit a lady once, I was escorting a friend home and this other girl tapped me on the shoulder asking for a light, surprised me I reacted wrong for that situation, young tough guy, trying to impress who I was with. There is no reason to fight, if you can;t get you point across then either its not valid or you are not arguing from the correct stand point. Violence never sways an opinion. This question was raised by a friend who is a girl and she said there are times when she thinks she deserved a slap (she is under anger management) but I really believe all that is required is restraint.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it that women always seem to be attracted to ar$eholes?

I've just come out of a 14 yr relationship, I never once abused her physically or mentally.

I'm a nice guy you see.

But... She's 34, and decided that life was more rosy with an out of work 17 yr old???

What's that all about?

A year has passed now, she's split from her "schoolboy" lover and shacked up with another bloke now???

I'm still single because I can't work out what I'd done, and it's killed my confidence with women.

Don't get me wrong... I'm over "HER", in fact the stupid cow probably done me a favour in the long run.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

People seem to have read too much into Colin's post.

Women prefer "bastards" to "nice guys". Maybe this is because they fancy a bit of excitement or because only the "bastards" have the bollocks to chat them up. Either way, women prefer bastards.

As for winding men up, Colin said that some women wind men up and make the situation worse. He did not say that all women are asking for it (including those posting here) and he did not say that all women deserve what they get. If you want an example of the sort of woman that Colin is referring to then read Teaman's above post.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 24 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the same reason geezers are attracted to women that are slightly mental and/or tarts.

Everyone's ragging on colin and his 'issues' with women; perhaps it was his experiences with women that gave him cause to have issues?
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
sometimes recently your opinions have actually been spot on, seems you still have an issue with females though and you really need to sort it out.


thanks,
Its possible my views may change if i have reason to become less bitter and twisted but im not holding my breath but you never know, maybe i will fall in love and suddenly the world will look like a nicer place.

Like I said, Im not holding my breath.

My current plan is to overcome my nice guy tendencies and try to be a bit of a bastard. Limited success so far, but better than 100% nice guy.

As Pte has illustrated, being a nice guy isnt necessarily a route to happiness.

As teamans tale illustrated, it isnt always the man who is at fault although sometimes some people would like to think that.

Unfortunately in the real world karma doesnt work, as people who insist on having it their way, generally get things there way.

I know this is true as since i have started demanding things my way I have got them a bit more than I otherwise would.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah being a nice guy sucks but the right girl will come along eventually! and yeah most guys are attracted to slighty mad girls becuase its a very attrative personality factor!
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jebus wrote:
most guys are attracted to slighty mad girls becuase its a very attrative personality factor!


yeah unfortunately i think this is true

i need to find me a sane boring level headed girl who isnt prone to mood swings
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 25 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Women and bad BFs? Reply with quote

WHOA!!! Now you guys, This is exactly why I haven't made my post yet.... If it goes in this direction it's just going to end up as a slanging match!

Itchy wrote:
I've seen a recent example a woman who works down stairs in another office always has 'falls down the stairs'.

Any ideas?


Fact of the matter is that Itchy wondered on peoples views on WHY women stay with (reading between the lines.. see above) VIOLENT men.
Of course happens to both sexes (1 in 4 women have or will be a victim and 1 in 6 men), It's disgusting either way and there is no excusing it. It works out that on average, a woman in a violent relationship will be attacked 35 times before she reports it to the police.
BUT... again as pointed out...
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some women wind men up and make the situation worse

And some deserve the odd warning! (maybe not going so far as being hit) all the same!
Fact of the matter is, Violent relationships are not a partnership. They are very one-sided and it's all about control, be that mental or physical. The abuser relies on the weakness of the abused in order to get what they want.
Women stay because they feel that there's no way to support herself financially, that she has no where else to go.
Often there have been threats that if she leaves he will hunt her down and beat her worse than before, or that because she is a bad mother (headwork) the children will be taken from her, this coupled with messing with the kids heads, moving them from familiar surroundings, friends, etc.
Half the time the woman doesn't even realise how bad the situation is, as it's been built up over a long period of time. The first incident is never a big one, more likely to be a flash of temper followed by the infamous words "It'll never happen again."
Family also put pressure on the woman to stay, albeit without them knowing what's really going on behind closed doors, Things like "Think of the children" or having been told that it would never work out. This can make you feel like you HAVE to make it work.
It's also a real scary prospect to have to pack up your things, move to an area where no one knows who you are and lie to your friends (if you keep in touch) or lose them completely.

Better the devil you know! (or so it seems)

There... I think i've done enough thinking on this matter now.. it seems to be flowing quite freely! Wink
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