IM FOOOKED :( HELP :(

Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

got pulled with pillion, bike is registered to him, i was riding, i sed i was him he said he was me, both on provisional licenses.

now we know we got caught out badly and gonna get screwed up big time, got 3 points and a £60 fine and producer. they know we swapped identities and we know we messed up big time, now i was wondering seeing as they know we lied and swapped, what will the full penalty be when it all comes out into the open, ill come off worse because bikes not reg'd to me, no insurance, shudnt have been carrying pillion and lying and saying i was him Sad

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Don't drop the soap...

Minty · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Karma :

Have they said you will receive a summons? If you have had 3 points, fine and a producer - what were the 3 points for? I think in normal circumstances you dont get points if there is going to be more to follow. You get a summons and they do you for the full lot.
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Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

Drive other than in accordance with a license was the 3 points and fine. Never said anything about summons, its just, when we go to give the license in the faces won't match up if they saw mine in the car, which will jsut get the whole "they swapped faces" out in the open. I know they know they jsut never said anything.

Yea i expected those remarks, but thankyou r1NSR, atleast someone helps.
i learnt my lesson and well, forget even thinking about taking a mate "down the road" Evil or Very Mad

Also, they seemed to know who we was anyway, as I sat int he back of the car the radio said my name then his, so surely if they had said the reg it would have come up his only not mine? which i really dont know why, ive had a warning before but that was it, i still dont know how they would know it was me?

Ive lost my license Rolling Eyes

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

If they have offered you three points and a £60 fine. Say "Thankyou very much officer." It might help if you got down on your knees and licked his boots while you do so.

For driving outwith the terms of your licence and driving without insurance, you could have recieved a sizeable fine (well into three figures), a ban and up to 12 points

If they were in a really bad mood, they could have you up for perverting the course of justice which is a criminal offence. A bloke was Jailed in Cumbria recently for saying someone else was driving when he was caught on a speed camera.

That said, the copper fucked up too because he should have positively established your identity at the time of the offence, standard procedure.

Minty · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Karma :

Sounds like it is done and dusted to me on the basis that you have received the 3 points. So in effect you have been convicted of the offence. You cant be convicted again.

Live and learn - we have all done some dopey shit.
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Riou let's get this straight.

You got pulled, you gave his name, he gave yours. They then gave you 3 points and a fine for carrying him on the back, but you gave his name so HE gets the points.

Is that right so far?

Misc · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

He just needs to produce he's papers at the station, they won't know. Pretty sure they would of said somthing if they thought you was lying.

Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

yup, but its just the fact they knew we lied about it and din't do anything which is the worst because the bikes not registered to me, and ive no insurance and wat if the points get swapped to me? then get done for no insruance etc Sad

and they seemed to know my name as it was ont he radio before i even got my bum on the seat, THEN his name came up on the radio.

Misc · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

What happened after? Did you ride off with him on the back?

Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

Nope, he said do you want me to explain or you going to and I jsut said id explain on the way home, took bike off the stand and walked home with him and the bike

Misc · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Karma :

Huh? The police told you to walk it home?

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edd · Nearly there... Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Karma :

do they know you swapped identities or not? How do the police check you identity Stinkwheel? Ive only ever been asked name address and postcode.
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Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

they knew we was lying because he got my DOB wrong lol and he did a check on the details he gave (my info) about 3 times. the last time he just sed "that will do for me" and sent me off

syl · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Karma :

Whose name is written on the producer and who has the fixed penalty notice? You or him?

When you (or he) go(es) in to produce your (his) details, it will just be to some lady on the desk who won't have any idea what you (or he) looked like in the back of the plod car.
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

How many tickets did the copper write out? One or two (one each)?

Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

thank you dmahon, i was thinking it would jsut be "turn up, hand it over, pay the fine go home wait for license to come back" but you never know with plod Sad

EDIT: one ticket, to me the driver, the other copper sed he could have done my mate for aiding and abbetting because he knew he shouldn't have been on the back but he let that go, as with the exhaust it has a scorpion can on it and I was sure you was allowed anything aslong as its 14.6BHP but he seemed adament there was a speed restriction, but it was how we bought the bike so he said take it to a garage and get it checked out

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

They usually ask for some form of ID, be it a credit card or whatever. Ever since some footballer wriggled his way out of doing 120 on the M74 by saying they couldn't prove it was him driving (despite having been stopped).

Did they caution you? (ie. You have the right to remain silent etc.)

Did they say they were reporting you for consideration for prosecution?

cagiva gezzer · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Karma :

What HAVE you got at the moment?

As above, if it's just a producer then it's highly unlikely you'll see the same person at the station. Do you have to use the local one or can you go to the next but one town(?).

If you've got a court apperance then you're in a shitty area...
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Riou · L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Karma :

Yea i got a caution, whole speech. They did ask for ID but I didn't have my wallet and he played dumb to it, they never said they were considering me for prosecution.

EDIT, as i gave his address its about 20 mile away from where we was, and he lives 10secs walk to a station so I said that one.

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bostonshirede... · Nova Slayer Joined: 02 May 2006 Karma :

sounds like your in the clear tbh

He will get the fine and the points when he takes and produces the docs at the station, cus you gave his name + details and you have got off scott free

The police were either being v kind or v stupid Razz

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