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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Crashed. Bike = Dead, Me = Alive. Reply with quote

Hi all

Just thought i would share my carnival story with you all. Just pushed my smashed up bike 3 miles to my mums house. Had been Karting earlier... came third... was having a good day, looking forward to taking my girl to carnival tomorow. Approaching a Left handed bend, Not fast... 30-35 ish, notice the road is suddenly shiney, Bang... all i know is im sliding down the road seeing my bike dissapear down the road in a hail of sparks, i come to a stop after a couple 100 yards. Inspect myself.

Ok i can still move my arms and legs... Go to stand up and realise one trainer (yes yes i know, i wasent wearing my boots) has flown off and some of the skin on my hand has ground away (always wear boots and gloves... i learned that one today).

Luckily my leather jacket protected my arms and torso from the worst, i have grazes on each elbow. And my draggin jeans ripped on the outside but did their job and dident rip through the kevlar (impressed... and glad i was wearing them) My brand new helmet that i brought last week (i knew i would need a new one lol) has scraped down the side....

So im sitting lying there on the side of the road (right under the A40 overpass) by paddington, now some guy helps me lift the bike and move it to the side... I just sit there for a while and have a quiet moment. Then i decide to ring the AA... and my credit runs out... So it was a long push home though all the carnival ravers staring and making comments (some positive... some not).

And everything was going so well for me... passed my exams, accepted to uni... i knew the luck couldent hold out...

I need some advice now. As i was sitting by the side of the road a cyclist even commented to me that he was sliding around... So on my push home i have let traffic officers know about the oil spill and now have a CAD number... I only have third party insurance.. will i be able to claim against the council for this or am i basically fucked?

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PostPosted: 21:16 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im glad ur ok m8 but sounds like a bit of a bad day lol. i carnt really help you on ur inshurance thing sorry but im glad ur ok but unlucky about the bike!

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PostPosted: 21:17 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you are ok Thumbs Up As to the oil - go back and take some photos NOW!. You will need them as evidence if you are going to complain, and you might as well as you've got nothing to loose. At the very worse they can only say no.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There only seems to be one of the URL pics that work mate.

That's really s**t for you though, good luck making a claim against the council, i'm sure you'll succed but i doubt you'll be able to claim through insurance.

Perhaps best to get a legal battle on yourself and bitch the useless cunts that they didn't clean up the oil spill quick enough.

Good luck mate and try get the pics up.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem is its 3 miles away, and i have no transport, plus carnival is just finishing up so there is no public transport... I dont know anyone than can give me a lift now...
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky on the spill, hope everything works out for you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're basically fucked. The council have to clear up a mess 'within a reasonable time' so if you were able to show that they knew there was a spill earlier and did nothing about it, you would have a claim.

If they didn't know about it because it had just happened, you can't claim because they haven't been negligent.
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Misc
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad luck, what's damaged on the bike?

How far do you have to be leaning to wipe out on oil then?
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headlight smashed
Clutch Snaped off
Gear lever bent.
Handlebars bent
Mirrors smashed
Footpegs/sidestand look fucked
Clocks are fucked
Most of the handlebar controls look mashed up also...

I wasent leaning over too far... I mean whatever it was on the road it was making cyclist slip so...
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
How far do you have to be leaning to wipe out on oil then?


Not far...given that i walked through a puddle of the stuff and wiped out....i was hardly bent over at 30 mph either Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad news TheDonUK.

Diesel's a bastard, glad you're not too badly scraped-up. Sorry about your bike but better it than you.

Unfortunately, unless you have some way of proving that the diesel had been reported to the council, there's little chance you can claim. No claims court in the land is going to find it reasonable that the council should have every inch of the roads inspected hourly, so unless it's reported to them how could they be to blame?

No help I know but that's how it is.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd need to prove they had been informed of the diesel/oil spill.
Not easy.
If it had happened just moments earlier they obviously could hardly be blamed for not attempting to make it safe - so there's a grey area about how long is reasonable.

Expect you might be best off just picking up bits from breakers to get it on the road then looking decent over several weeks/months.
At least you aren't really injured Thumbs Up
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this GS has had it... It was on its way out anyway... The repairs would cost more than its worth...

So unless anyone here has a cheap little hack it looks like its cycling for me...
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headlight smashed
250LC pattern headlamp £25
Clutch Snaped off
£6
Gear lever bent.
Hammer
Handlebars bent
Steel drag bars for a tenner
Mirrors smashed
Don't need them
Footpegs/sidestand look fucked
Two bits of threaded bar with rubber hose over them £5 tops. Got a mainstand? Or just lean it against the wall.

Or replace the pillion pegs with threaded bar/a long bolt and use them for the riders pegs

Clocks are fucked
Pushbike speedo £10
Most of the handlebar controls look mashed up also...
Maybe £25 from a breakers, especially if you just use what you can get cheap

So I make that £71 and it's back on the road. Won't look pretty but better than nothing. Check out https://www.ratbike.org for inspiration. The forum is good for ideas for cheap fixes.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Headlight smashed
250LC pattern headlamp £25
Clutch Snaped off
£6
Gear lever bent.
Hammer
Handlebars bent
Steel drag bars for a tenner
Mirrors smashed
Don't need them
Footpegs/sidestand look fucked
Two bits of threaded bar with rubber hose over them £5 tops. Got a mainstand? Or just lean it against the wall.

Or replace the pillion pegs with threaded bar/a long bolt and use them for the riders pegs

Clocks are fucked
Pushbike speedo £10
Most of the handlebar controls look mashed up also...
Maybe £25 from a breakers, especially if you just use what you can get cheap

So I make that £71 and it's back on the road. Won't look pretty but better than nothing. Check out https://www.ratbike.org for inspiration. The forum is good for ideas for cheap fixes.


excellent advice. wouldnt agree about the mirrors tho! i tried that once and hated it. still sub £100 if you're smart. although postage may take it over £100. try this site for breakers...
*EDIT: i believe it is free aswell Thumbs Up

https://www.bike-breakers.info/Forms/Suzuki.htm

and of course ebay.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, i hope my assessment of the damage is not missing anything... I mean mechanically i hope its all ok and if it is, i will most likely have to adopt some of stinkwheels ideas there as a finantial necesity...

I Think i am still shook/upset about the whole thing and as such am single mindedly seeing the bike as a write off when it is most likely salvagable... While i have been sitting here i found myself looking on ebay at C90 auctions... although thats what it may come to i will try my best to stay above the parapit. Now i am going to smoke copious amounts of weed and get some rest. I thank you all for your advice and kind words...

Any more is welcome as are any other ideas regarding salvaging it....
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Crashed. Bike = Dead, Me = Alive. Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
I need some advice now.

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Well, can't get some of the image links to work, but after editing the first link, it looks like that's a GS500. You want to stick it together with some gaffer tape and get yourself down to DK Motorcycles. They'll possibly not notice there's anything wrong with it and give you a decent trade in on another bike before flogging it on to some poor sucker.
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 27 Aug 2006    Post subject: Re: Crashed. Bike = Dead, Me = Alive. Reply with quote

[quote="dmahon"]
TheDonUK wrote:
I need some advice now.

Well, can't get some of the image links to work, but after editing the first link, it looks like that's a GS500. You want to stick it together with some gaffer tape and get yourself down to DK Motorcycles. They'll possibly not notice there's anything wrong with it and give you a decent trade in on another bike before flogging it on to some poor sucker.


lol @ DK.

Yea sorry about the links not working people, im still pretty charged from crashing then pushing the bike a long way...
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering that Westminster had all its clean up crew parked in North Wharf rd and would cross that roundabout on the way to clear up you might be in luck.
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well actually there was a number of rubbish lorries parked just before where the slick (because i still am unsure as to what it was) was....

Actually that makes sense, The lorries would have used the bit of road i crashed on everytime they exited to go somewhere... and those dust carts leave that slippery shit....

Should i contact westminster council?
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Well actually there was a number of rubbish lorries parked just before where the slick (because i still am unsure as to what it was) was....

Actually that makes sense, The lorries would have used the bit of road i crashed on everytime they exited to go somewhere... and those dust carts leave that slippery shit....

Should i contact westminster council?


Again, what have you got to lose in asking. They are after all meant to keep their vehicles well maintained.

At the moment there is very little law enforcement about leaking diesel, so how about those on this forum showing a little bit more pro-active support by getting yourselfs down to the killspills protest ride though London in 2 weeks time? 4000 bikes this year and the message finally seems to be getting through to the relevent parties.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will get onto the council ASAP...

And as for the KillSpills... I need one rider who wasent previously going to the rideout to take my place...
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MIB recently paid out for a desel spill crash to a biker, the 'spiller' of the diesel was unknown. Takes ages to get paid out from them but no harm in submitting a claim.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry to hear m8, good that your ok. I know you must be pissed off...but whats to say that no-one bothered to report the oil spill, therefore the council weren't aware! you probably wont get your money and instead some new safety system will end up being introduced and so furthering the nations way of "catering for idiots". Its like someone tripping on a wonky pafement slab, i mean seriously just look where your going. That last sentence has no relefance to you...was just a little rant. Im not saying your an idiot in anyway as you couldnt hafe done anything.But claiming will probably do more harm than good to those of us that aren't idiot(you included).
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You'd need to prove they had been informed of the diesel/oil spill.
Good point...
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If it had happened just moments earlier they obviously could hardly be blamed for not attempting to make it safe
Thats sort of the point i was making also but to busy ranting about idiots lol!!
Good luck anyway if you do claim.... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just do as Stinkwheel said - sounds like it'd be easy enough to get the bike usable again at least.

By the way:
Clutch levers are £3 at HG!
Busters have headlights from £10.
Also have a paid of 'universal' mirrors from £10 - though I'm quite happy to ride without them, just have to get used to a different riding style.

Incidentally, if you did have fully comp, while you could make a claim, I reckon you'd still end up losing money in total when you came to get insurance next year.
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